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The Cry

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trisher Mon 01-Oct-18 11:06:22

Did anyone watch this? I only got half way through and had to turn it off. I didn't care what the story was. I didn't care about any of the characters. All I cared about was the poor baby who for the sake of filming seemed to be left to cry when it suited. I wanted his mum to pick him up and cuddle him. I wanted someone to take him away from all of them. I just couldn't stand it.

Jane43 Mon 22-Oct-18 11:26:04

Humptydumpty. In the last episode he told her that he knew the police were monitoring their movements so couldn’t take her to where Noah was buried. After they left the tree the police were digging up the area with a mechanical digger. He felt that them finding nothing would take the focus off them as suspects but it was a cruel thing to do as she genuinely thought that was where he was buried and why she took away some of the soil. He really was a self-centred, nasty piece of work. I don’t think she found out the truth of where Noah was really buried until right at the end. I think it was another factor in why she wanted to kill him.

It was a good drama and I would like to read the book as there is probably much more in it.

oldbatty Mon 22-Oct-18 12:08:42

mmm inspite of post natal exhaustion I reckon I would have labeled the bottles, before leaving home obviously, not in a airport lounge.

I have been watching far too much TV and it must stop!

humptydumpty Mon 22-Oct-18 12:17:54

Thanks Jane, I know what you mean - but when did she find out about the floorboards? during the car journey in a bit we didn't see?

also she seems to have been found not guilty (or not proven?) in the court case but we never heard that - or did I miss something? and surely the police would have been able to tell that his seatbelt had not been fastened when the crash happened? - in which case how did she get off? (which is not to say that I don't have EVERY sympathy with her!)

Jane43 Mon 22-Oct-18 12:44:36

Humptydumpty I assumed she found out where Noah was some time prior to or during the car journey in a bit we didn’t see. Regarding the seatbelt she could have said that he was careless and often didn’t wear it. I think you are right in assuming that she was found not guilty, again in a bit we didn’t see.

A small point that puzzled me was why she didn’t want contact with her best friend when they returned to Scotland.

Also, did anybody think that the lady who offered him the job with the charity was being lined up by him as his next affair?

Perhaps somebody who has read the book could answer some of these questions.

POGS Mon 22-Oct-18 12:49:42

She made an educated guess by looking at the photo he took of her standing in that spot in the kitchen when they went to view the house .

It was after he died in the crash and if I remember after her trial had finished.

Jane43 Mon 22-Oct-18 12:52:05

Oldbatty I assumed that either they only found out about not being able to take the medicines in their proper bottles in their hand luggage at the airport and purchased the bottles afterwards, unlikely though. Or that she didn’t bother to label the bottles because she always did the taste test before giving Noah his medicine and she was always the one to give him the medicine since he wasn’t hands on with Noah, he seemed to delegate all the childcare duties to Jo, I think this is more likely.

You should carry on watching programmes like this because they make us think and provoke discussion.

Jane43 Mon 22-Oct-18 12:52:50

POGS thank you for that.

BlueBelle Mon 22-Oct-18 13:41:57

I do find the floor board thing (which I didn’t pick up on at all) a bit flimsy how would he have taken the floorboards up and when... did they still have the dead baby with them while they were in that house I think I m going to have to watch it all again as I seem to have missed some clues along the way

DIL17 Mon 22-Oct-18 13:42:23

He buried him before the house was built on top

BlueBelle Mon 22-Oct-18 13:45:26

Yes Jane43 I thought the lady with the job was the next on his list I also wondered why she shunned the friend

Farmor15 Mon 22-Oct-18 15:12:22

I was a bit disappointed with last episode- slow and confusing till last 15 minutes. Comments above by more observant viewers help though!

humptydumpty Mon 22-Oct-18 15:19:18

Now I'm even more confused! I made the fatal mistake of thinking the last scene was in the cottage on the beach - no, obviously it was the new-build he took her to see, penny drops! I'm just going to have to read the book.....

Jane43 Mon 22-Oct-18 15:32:18

I do love a programme that makes me think so I think I am going to get the book on my Kindle. BlueBelle perhaps the book might answer our questions. I also wondered how she had managed to afford to buy the new build house, perhaps he had a hefty life insurance policy and had no inmates her as beneficiary as I don’t think they were married at the time of his death.

Jane43 Mon 22-Oct-18 15:33:46

When they first arrived and drove close to the bush fire there was a shot of a ruined, wooden building. I thought that was going to be where he had put Noah’s body.

kathsue Mon 22-Oct-18 16:08:04

I enjoyed the programme but I can't accept that two well-educated people, who had presumably travelled by air before, didn't know the rules about taking liquids in hand luggage.

It was also a big coincidence that the medicines were identical.

Washerwoman Mon 22-Oct-18 16:41:56

I think the thing about the medicines is that Jo was already so tired and stressed as a relatively new mum,who really had reservations about such a long flight with a fractious baby.Who wouldn't be ?But her controlling partner was determined to go whatever ,but left all the baby arrangements to her,and slept for much of the flight.and so I can understand how they could get to the airport and have forgotten to decant the separate medicines. I thought the acting was superb, especially from Jenna Coleman.Truly at times.

Jane43 Mon 22-Oct-18 17:48:32

I just ordered it from Amazon. The Kindle edition is only £3.49.

Washerwoman yes the acting was very good from all concerned. Jenna Coleman was mesmerising at times, she is a very beautiful girl.

BlueBelle Mon 22-Oct-18 18:00:25

Oh, a new build I thought it was the one they stayed in well that’s confused me even more when did they have it built and where was the baby’s body lingering while the house was being built ? they don’t go up in a day ...help I thought Id got it sussed and you ve all thrown up things I didn’t know and now am a bit more confused ?
Yes she’s a great actress and very beautiful

Iam64 Mon 22-Oct-18 18:53:41

I suspect she avoided her best friend when they returned to Scotland because she feared she'd blurt out what had happened to Noah. The two young women had been very close and probably shared all kinds of confidences. If someone knows you very well they're likely to ask the question that prompts you to lose control. I don't mean scream and shout, I mean be unable to maintain a lie.

It was very interesting that his ex wife and his mother were with Noah's mother emotionally, neither of them were attempting to implicate her in his death though I suspect both knew she'd been involved (but it served him right)

Sparklefizz Mon 22-Oct-18 19:16:45

As I said before, the book is brilliant. I thoroughly enjoyed it and everything is clearer, especially the ending.

Jalima1108 Mon 22-Oct-18 23:58:16

I've just watched three episodes on 'catch-up' (exhausted!)
BlueBelle
Oh, a new build I thought it was the one they stayed in well that’s confused me even more when did they have it built and where was the baby’s body lingering while the house was being built
When Al went to dispose of the baby's body they were building houses on a site near the beach. The new 'show house' he took Jo to see was not built then, just foundations being dug and he must have disposed of the body in the foundations - somehow.
When he took Jo to look at the house, suggesting that they could stay in Australia and be near his daughter, he took a photo of Jo in the room, presumably Noah was below that house.
No, they don't go up in a day but they were in Australia for quite a while as the investigation was going on.
Jo realised that and at the end went back to Australia and bought that house so that she could be near to her son.

Someone may have said all this, I haven't read the whole thread.

The only flaw for me was the decanting of the medicine into travel bottles - no-one would do that and the bottles contained more than 100ml too, by the look of it.

Grandma2213 Tue 23-Oct-18 00:30:03

I was totally engrossed in the story and thought Jenna Coleman was brilliant. There was so much going on behind that 'frozen' face! There were so many 'moments' that made sense in the end. The only thing that annoys me in most of these dramas is that there always seems to be enough money available eg for flights to Australia, buying houses. I, like most other people, would struggle to find cash for those sort of things.

BlueBelle Tue 23-Oct-18 06:00:29

Thanks Jalma (shows how much I missed) and I thought I was concentrating but anyway I throughly enjoyed it

Jalima1108 Tue 23-Oct-18 11:01:34

They were my thoughts anyway, Bluebelle, whether correct or not!
The trouble is, I always watch these dramas and, although I can thoroughly enjoy them, I start nitpicking at the faults … ie the medicine being decanted (no), you can take medicine in hand luggage even if it's over 100 ml but in the original bottle surely, and with a doctor's note.
And how did he get into the building site, did none of the builders notice something amiss the next day?

Jenna Coleman was brilliant and Alistair was sufficiently creepy from the beginning to make me suspicious.

Sparklefizz Tue 23-Oct-18 15:22:38

Grandma2213 Regarding cash for flights, etc. she said she'd been left some money by her parents. She had a house of her own.

The book is much better. There are several questions on here which I don't want to answer as it will spoil the book for those who plan to read it.