Prince Charles

There are many reasons why people are unfaithful,not all affairs are callously & selfishly embarked upon. Strange as it may seem it is often the most caring people who do take this route initially believing that they can avoid hurting anyone, eventually realising that they cannot.

True Bridgeit It’s all so sad

To get back to the subject just a bit - I see Charles as a very wealthy, indulged individual. I am sure he is very nice but as for hard work, he has the ideas (maybe) and minions do the donkey, work putting everything in place for him. He may read the correspondence and have meetings about goings on concerning him, but he doesn't slave over a typewriter/computer keeping on top of things. He had a whole host of people to see to his every need.

His 'job' is turning up to open things, see people, go to dinners, make short speeches.

all arrangements are made for him. he doesn't know what it is to run out of petrol, breakdown on the road, sit in traffic jams or have to stand on a train or travel with the great unwashed on a plane - with no leg room.

He is a privileged man. He was not right for Diana and must have KNOWN she was to become little more than his sperm receptacle. They didn't make good companions as they were very different from each other. His friends were older and stuffier than the people shy Diana mixed with. I felt for Diana. She did want more (wouldn't any woman) and knew he carried a torch for Camilla and still saw her. Any wife would be completely gutted to be the spare wheel. Her misery must have been very great. She was stuck given their position. I rather cheered for her when she played him at his own adulterous game, although the whole situation was very sad. (I was in the middle of a bad marriage at the same time and had a husband who didn't really want a wife so I knew the loneliness and heartache. )

I am glad he has found happiness with Camilla, but the whole family has a life which is cushioned from any reality known to most of us.

I loathe the way in which all of a sudden those in the public eye, including the royal family, have been elevated to some sort of god-like status. The media fires that adoration but a sheep-like public buys into it. The worship of Meghan and Harry - really?

I am rather tired of this celebrity monarchy, so I sort of favour the slightly crusty, stuffy Charles. My monarchy has to be distant and slightly mysterious. I do not however go along with the notion that they 'work hard'. They show up.

It is all they have ever known and all that is ever required of them. In between times they are tucked up in luxury. Where is Charles now? At a pal's villa enjoying a private beach, wonderful grounds, lavish dinners? Most of their year is an opulent holiday. They live like that whether they travel or not.

I think the Queen has reigned well. I hope Charles becomes King, and I favour his heirs being retained but as for the rest of the Windsor clan? No thanks. They are an anachronism who rely on public adulation to exist.

Anniebach, I think it depends on the circumstances as to how do I feel. If it was somebody who had openly had an affair for 8 years putting her family through hell and was still trying to entice her husband back so he could pay the school fees, I'd feel very anti it. If it was your average people who couldn't make a marriage work but not through lack of trying, I'd give my blessing. Prince Charles is in rather a unique position as his role will be Defender of the Faith. I think if you take the luxuries that his position entails, you should abide by the rules and be a role model. If you don't want that responsibility, clear the way for someone who does.
Jalima1108, yes she is the Defender of the Faith. 'Representative' is maybe the wrong word but the Faith HM defends is supposed to based on his and his Father's words where there's quite an explicit "You shall not commit adultery," being given as a message!

Sadly with or without them, their will never be equality, equal distribution of wealth, lifestyle,life expectancy,good health care , education etcetc, only we as individuals know where we come on that scale, hence our differing opinions etc.
I still find it hard to believe that I am still seeing pictures of starving children, equally as desperate as those I was shown when I was a child.

Well said Day6. Spot on!

Defender of the Faith. The Christian faith. what a laugh!

Perhaps one can defend it without adhering to it ?

Defender of the faith means defender of the faith of the Church of England, no king or queen can put themselves forward as the defender of the faith of all Christians, it realy stems from the split in the RC Church and Henry 8 .

Sorry to disagree again icanhandthemback

Thou shalt not commit adultery is one of the ten in the Old Testament, but when Christ was asked which of the ten was the greatest he split them into two commandments ‘thou shalt love the Lord your God with all your heart and your neighbour as yourself.

When a woman was being stoned for adultery Christ said
‘Let he who is without sin cast the first stone’

Bridget ?
Anniebach I think there's a difference between using your brain to decide if something is right or wrong and stoning someone to death.

Sorry annep I don’t get what you mean. My reference to stoning to death was in reply to a quote from the Ten Commandments.

As I understand it, when/if Charles becomes king, he will be Defender of Faith not Defender of the faith - according to the Telegraph "a symbolic change to reflect Britain's multicultural society". So it appears the word faith will not in fugure be intended to refer only to Christians but to all faiths and therefore the CofE/Catholic issue isn't really relevant.

Yes he has said that Eleothan , I think he is right

Yes, I heard that too Eloethan

'Defender of Faiths'

but perhaps any Roman Catholics may not need him to defend their faith, they will prefer a direct line to the Pope.

That's true Anniebach, I'll just have to stick with my personal view...I have a large enough gut to use for instinct. I just want a better role model as a figure Head of State.

Well said Day6 I doubt grandpa Charlie will be doing the school runs any time soon.

I thought you were saying adultery is wrong, but we dont have the right to criticise those who commit it by quoting Jesus words? But Jesus was saying we don't have the right to punish.

I'm surprised at those blaming Diana for having affairs with married men. Did she force herself on them, did she rape them or were they equally at fault. As the saying goes - it takes two to tango. No I don't approve of her adultery but I can understand her looking for affection elsewhere when she was being denied it from her husband.

Thanks annep. Do you not think there is a difference between criticism and punishment?

Icanhandthemback wants Charles punished for his adultery, as she is a Christian I found it difficult that she wanted to go further than saying adultery is breaking the marriage vows ,which is I suppose a critcism and saying he should be punished . She quoted one of the commandments as a reason for wanting him punished. I must have broken a commandment, i would think most Christians have , so I am as guilty as Charles .

I didn’t think icanhandthemback said she wanted Charlie punished. I thought she said that he isn’t a role model which is true.

Charlie got what he needed from Diana. A young virgin bride able to provide him with an heir . Job done . I’m obviously not in the inner royal sanctum ( unlike others seem to be) but I really believe that Diana thought she was marrying “a happy ever after” . Poor girl.

Charles said he started his affair when his marriage had broken down.

Diana said he was in the affair during their engagement and from the start of the marriage.

There is no proof which shows which is true and which isn’t .

Diana said they were very happy in 1984

Diana said she was in love with Barry Manikee in 1984.

Diana said Charles wore cuff links with his and Camilla’s initials entwined . A post on this thread allegedly gives proof of these cuff links , one C on them.

The press reported everything Diana claimed , Charles has always remained silent.

So decisions are made and guilty verdict has been given on the above.

Oldwoman70, you can understand Diana having affairs with married men, I cannot. If my husband had had an affair I would have been in bits, devasted , no way would I want to inflict such hurt on another woman.

I have never excused the married men , I do say she was a hypocrite to say there were three in her marriage when she had been the third in several marriages .