Prince Charles

"^no human being could have given Diana what she wanted , 24 hour attention, oh with the exception of Burrell^"

Annie you say such cruel things about people you have fixed opinions about.

Whatever you may think about Diana, can you not understand the deep wound she carried due to the loss of her mother when she was only 6? Her little brother was 4 and he has said himself that she became a little mother to him when he cried every night.

sparklefizz, Camilla married her first husband when she was 26, so younger than that when she was first with Charles, no way do I see a 24 year old Camilla looking anything like Mabel Anderson.

gilly not superior knowledge, just think things through without rose tinted specs. I admit I do know some facts though.

Sparklefizz I was not being cruel , you want the fairytale of the poor little abused girl and the wicked husband , you refuse to accept facts.

If you were on a three week honeymoon cruise on a yacht would you complain if your husband read a book ? If I was stuck on a yacht for three weeks I would certaintly want to read books. Perhaps you wouldn’t but I am curious as to what you would do ?

Sorry, forgot to add, it is cruel that a little girl knows she is a great disappointment to her father because she wasn’t a boy and her mother was blamed for having a third daughter not a son.

I don’t believe the ‘little mother who took care of a baby ‘ when thry had nannies

Anniebach There's no reasoning with you because I notice you always have to have the last word, you nit-pick and you think you have superior knowledge.

It may be that I have much more experience of what Diana went through than you. It may not, of course, as I don't know your life, but by the same token, you don't know mine. You also don't know my background so you have no idea what understanding I may have of dysfunctional families, childhood wounds, etc.

Yesterday you accused me of lying, today you accuse me of wanting "the fairytale of the poor little abused girl and the wicked husband" and that I "refuse to accept the facts". Not sure what facts you think I'm refusing to accept, Annie. I see two damaged people not a fairytale.

As far as your dig concerning whether I read books, I run 2 book groups, so that answers your query. I read probably 3 books a week, maybe more.

Give up, sparklefizz. I have.?

None of us truly went on in the marriage or what sort of people they are/were but both Camilla and Charles committed adultery and put their children in an embarrassing position. When you take on the role of the Sovereign in this country, you take on the role as Head of the Church of England. I just don't see how you can defend the hypocrisy of that no matter how hard done by Charles was by his wife. He knew as he committed that adultery just what his future role would be and yet that didn't stop him. I don't care if he's King half as much as him being Head of the Church.

If you are a member of the Church of England * icanhandthemback* i can understand why you feel as you do, as a member of The Church in Wales I too do not approve of adultery but I value the marriage vows more and they both broke those vows. I am not defending adultery, I am discussing the reasons for their adultery. I assume you like me cannot condon Diana’s affairs with several married men ,I can understand she had a need for men .

Christ is the Head of the Church yes?

Yes, I am a confirmed member. Diana is dead and was never going to be Christ's representative on earth! I most certainly don't condone Diana's affairs. I do think that she perhaps went into the marriage expecting a more romantic setup than she got but there is nothing to say that would have kept her happy either. She was obviously a very damaged, emotionally immature young lady... no doubt courtesy of her parents' bad choices.

How many months was the Queen away, and that's the best she could muster.....anyway, that's not my concern. A few 'regular' Gransnetters really do spoil the enjoyment by some of their comments just because someone has a different opinion. Gransnet could do with 'marshalling' these comments a bit more in an attempt to make it more lighthearted. Waiting for the flack

Anniebach the reason I mentioned the pram was that I don't think any child of two years of age was still in a big pram like that.
If you look at the photo he looks too big for the pram.
On Prince Chales' 2nd birthday Anne would have been about two months old.
Did they share the pram?
Did they have two prams?
Why wasn't he sitting like my elder child did if I took the baby out in the pram ,on a pram seat on the top facing the pram pusher.?
Ah well,I will never know the answer.

Lancslass, I don’t know if there were pram seats 70 years ago

So Charles said a lot of things he wished he had not in what was supposed to be a private phone call.

Many people have failed marriages. Why pick on Prince Charles? Marry in haste and regret at leisure. Just because he is rich does not mean he has to be good at relationships.

All I can say is his marital difficulties ares really no different to many posts I have looked at this afternoon.

Charles looks very happy and settled now with Camilla. This is real life not fairy tales.

Sparklefizz I did not accuse you of lying, you posted an untruth, are you still saying you were right saying Charles wanted to be a tampon Even though the recording of the phone call is posted on this tbread ?

Merlot, you asked me a question, I gave you a reply, I said nothing offensive , you came back with the accusation I had slapped down you didn’t, I did not.

Anniebach I am taking Merlot's advice to give up.

sorry icanhandthemback. You may think of the queen as Christ’s representative on earth I do not. Where does these leave Baptists, Methodists, The Church in Wales, Christians who are not members of any church ?

If she was so I would agree with the posters who condemn her wealth whilst people are homeless

Thinking of previous kings I certaintly wouldn’t think of them as Christ’s representative

ok Sparklefizz. sorry you no longer want to discuss the tbread because I have disagreed with you .

Not at all, Annie, You can disagree with me as much as you like and I have no doubt you will because that seems to be your nature, although I notice you keep changing your stance. One day I hope to be as knowledgeable and perfect as you are, but in the meantime I can only dream.

It’s my nature to disagree ? I thought most people disagreed if they thought something was unfair or unjust

We don't have to agree, Anniebach, I just think that giving someone the role as the Head of the Church of England who has committed adultery is a bit like giving the job of Pope to someone who is married. It just doesn't wash but that is just my point of view. As to being a representative, I didn't say she was the only one. However, I am happy to differ with you. I am sure you can live with that.

I can icanhanditback I respect your views even though I can’t agree with them. How do you react in your church when a divorced couple marry ?

HM is not 'Christ's representative on earth'

That is what the Pope is supposed to be to all the RCs in the world.

HM is Defender of the Faith.

annep
I never give to food banks.
Some if those who use them, exploit the system. Some smoke and drink alcohol, some have lived beyond their means, fallen into debt and now rely on the government to bail them out.
Many who live in so called poverty, have 50" tvs which are on all day, ipads for their children and live on takeaways. I've seen it on tv and in real life.
Nothing like the poverty in 3rd world countries where they 'wash' their cooking pot with sand, clothes on a stone and trudge for long distances to a standpipe with pots for water.
I make no apologies whatsoever, for my views.

How do you react in your church when a divorced couple marry ?
We were invited to a church wedding - it was his third marriage and her second.
(they are divorced now)

*of not if.