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travelsafar Sat 10-Nov-18 08:25:59

Did anyone else watch the program about our future King the other night. I found it very entertaining and loved his story about the butcher and the black pudding. I felt he came across as a very nice person who is kind and thoughtful and his wife and sons, clearly love him very much.

Anniebach Mon 12-Nov-18 12:01:29

Rather obvious you haven’t read the thread Esspee

Bridgeit Mon 12-Nov-18 12:55:13

His family obviously love him, as they did their mother.
Not much different than the rest of us really , just a family getting through trials & tribulations warts and all the best way they can ( & before anyone says , yes money can cushion the hardships in life, but that applies to all of us.
I am writing this on a computer, whilst someone, somewhere in the world doesn’t have adequate food or shelter. It is not right , I & many others make donations to various charities but it never seems to alter a thing from one generation to another. What are the answers? Communism etc. No sadly it is survival of the fittest etc, just like in nature, a cruel world ,but with lots of good people trying to do some good, no need for continual judgement on someone else’s poor judgement.

Anniebach Mon 12-Nov-18 13:01:24

Money does not cushion emotional hurts , money didn’t cushion Charles from public humiliation and it certaintly didn’t bring his first wife happiness

Bridgeit Mon 12-Nov-18 13:05:07

Exactly Annibach.

EllanVannin Mon 12-Nov-18 13:33:47

It helps though Anniebach.

Anniebach Mon 12-Nov-18 13:36:39

How does it help EllanVannin ?

EllanVannin Mon 12-Nov-18 13:37:26

gillybob to see poverty in the schoolyard is heartbreaking. I've seen it myself and could cry-----in fact I do. I can't stand to see poor little kiddies looking down at heel it's so upsetting.

gillybob Mon 12-Nov-18 13:47:09

Money does not cushion emotional hurts

Of course it doesn't Annie but money can go a very long way in getting specialist help for mental health and acute anxiety issues.

Also whoever penned the phrase "money can't buy happiness" has clearly never known what it is like to be cold, hungry and unable to pay the bills.

It upsets me very much too EllanVannin . Little children wearing the most inappropriate clothes in the coldest weather. In particular a little girl in my DGS's class who wears a thin summer dress all year around. Short socks and plimsolls. Bless her heart she is like a little stray.

Sparklefizz Mon 12-Nov-18 13:50:52

Charles' so-called "public humiliation" - I think he brought that on himself.

Whatever anyone may say about Diana and her affairs later on, she was a young naive girl aged only 19 who married a much older man of the world who was in love with Camilla. Charles admits himself that he had doubts before the wedding and that he cried the night before.
As the older and more mature of the two of them, he should never have allowed Philip to push him into the marriage, but he needed "a virgin bride" and he had run through most of the selection available.

Camilla had done the dirty on him by marrying Parker Bowles while Charles was away, and also Camilla was back then a Catholic, I believe, and so it was frowned on that Charles should marry her. She was also a woman "with a past" and her history was considered too racy with previous sexual relationships for her to marry the Prince of Wales.

Diana didn't go into the marriage planning to have affairs, and her mental health was affected by a desperately unhappy marriage. Those of us who have been there can understand, I think.

Both of them came from dysfunctional childhoods. Diana never recovered from the abandonment by her mother, even though that was not her mother's choice and was fought through the courts, and I think it is perfectly understandable that she clung to her remaining parent and was jealous as she grew up. There was still that abandoned little girl inside her.

Charles meanwhile had a different but nevertheless dysfunctional childhood, and both of them wanted "Mummy" in a partner. Charles was too selfish and self-absorbed to be understanding and a support to Diana, and has found "Mummy" with Camilla, who looks remarkably like the nanny he had whilst growing up, and panders to his whims. Diana never found that.

No doubt Annie will come back quick as a flash and tell me I am totally wrong about all this grin !!

Anniebach Mon 12-Nov-18 14:30:50

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/7920132/Treat-for-loyal-nanny-Mabel-Anderson.html

I see no resemblance between Camilla and Mabel Anderson

As to pandering to whims, no human being could have given Diana what she wanted , 24 hour attention, oh with the exception of Burrell

gillybob Mon 12-Nov-18 14:36:27

no human being could have given Diana what she wanted

To be loved by her husband you mean Annie ? hmm

Anniebach Mon 12-Nov-18 14:42:42

At the time Diana was in Paris with her latest man she was not speaking to her Mother, Brother, Sisters, her staff had resigned , with exception of Burrell, poor abandoned little girl within ?

Her in laws protected her from a prosecution for slander. From pestering phone calls. From being named in a divorce case.

Anniebach Mon 12-Nov-18 14:44:47

No Gilly, to be given 24 hour a day attention , she didn’t love her husband , she loved her title and certaintly worked to win it.

gillybob Mon 12-Nov-18 14:50:09

How do you know she didn't love her husband Annie ? Seriously? confused

Anniebach Mon 12-Nov-18 14:52:14

How do you know she did Gilly ?

Lancslass1 Mon 12-Nov-18 14:59:12

Thanks for pointing me in the direction of the Nabel Anderson article,Anniebach.
What struck me most about it was the fact that Prince Charles was in a coach built pram at the age of two years.!
By that age my children were in push chairs (not the great buggies that we see now but small easily folded ones that didn't take a lot of room up when travelling on buses.)
Mainly though they were running around ,,though I have a feeling I had some reins so they didn't run away.

Jalima1108 Mon 12-Nov-18 15:00:03

I think they did - at first - until reality set in

Mapleleaf Mon 12-Nov-18 15:00:44

Some posters are saying William is too young and immature for the role of King. Well, he's not going to be king for many years yet, barring a tragedy happening. However, let's remember that Elizabeth was a lot younger than William is now when she became Queen. So, by your philosophy, does this mean that you think she was too young to take on the role when she did?

gillybob Mon 12-Nov-18 15:14:32

*How to you know she did Gilly?^

Well she certainly seemed to love him at the start Annie but I bow to your superior knowledge on all things royal family related Annie .

Bridgeit Mon 12-Nov-18 15:17:45

Don’t forget they all knew each other & the family dynamics for years, he use to date her her sister.

nigglynellie Mon 12-Nov-18 15:34:44

Goodness there are so many people on here who seem to know SO much about the private lives of the royal family!! For certain that marriage was sadly a disaster for both Diana and Charles. Yes, there probably was family manipulations particularly bearing in mind the memory of Mrs Simpson and that near disaster for the R.H! But the personal conversations between two adult people being blazed across every news outlet in the world was quite disgraceful. What is more disgraceful is that Charles is STILL being judged by that private conversation to this very day!!! It's just not anybody's business on here or anywhere else and shouldn't even be brought up! Whether the Queen did or didn't greet Charles appropriately after a foreign visit 66 years ago!!! Still in a coach pram in 1950!! FHS, attitudes were SO different then as to be completely inequitable with today 55+ years later!!
I think that he and Camilla make a brilliant twosome, relaxed, happy and comfortable in each others company, and together they'll do a splendid job time come! ? Can't we just leave it at that?!

nigglynellie Mon 12-Nov-18 15:35:45

RF not RH!!

Sparklefizz Mon 12-Nov-18 15:39:45

Annie You say you see no resemblance between Mabel Anderson (Charles' nanny) and Camilla. This photo shows the similarity between the two of them, taken from the book "Why you love who you love" written by a portrait artist who is used to studying the symmetry of people's faces and their similarities.

Anniebach Mon 12-Nov-18 15:40:21

Lanclsass. It does seem strange but it was nearly 70 yesrs ago and security had to be considered. Kate was photographed recently pushing the baby in the old Windsor pram.

Jalima1108 Mon 12-Nov-18 15:41:01

Still in a coach pram in 1950!!
Me too! I have the photo.