'Viewpoint' on ITV and Noel Clarke

Chestnut

I do think in this particular case it would have been difficult to keep his identity hidden until he was charged because there are so many other people involved. Not only the many accusers but everyone else he worked with, or is working with. I feel it's very wrong to have trial by media but in this day and age it can in some cases be hard to avoid.

Yes I think this is very fair comment - I honestly don’t know if there’s a solution. I wish there were.

The CR case was appalling - based on a tip off from the police to the BBC and with no investigation at all it appears, just ‘fishing’.

Sorry don’t know why BBC got into my reply!!

The false accusers are really scum of the earth, because not only do they ruin an innocent person's life but they make it hard for genuine accusers who have actually been wronged.

tanith

ITV have now cancelled the last episode, not surprising.

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Oh my goodness, so it wasn't just a few Twitterati complaints, it was a genuine concern. I think that was wrong to cancel. But in these days of pc wokeness gone mad no-one wants to take the slightest risk of offending anyone. I feel sorry for the viewers and the actors and crew who have worked hard on the production.

No idea what the details are.

Trial by media should be a crime in itself.

Four evenings viewing wasted ?

Yes I agree GG, four evenings viewing wasted, although rather a slow burner, I wanted to see it through to it's conclusion.

I always liked Noel Clarke but will reserve judgement.

Apparently ITV are putting the final episode on ITV Hub for a limited time for those who wish to seek it out. I hope those of you that want to have access to the Hub.

tanith

Apparently ITV are putting the final episode on ITV Hub for a limited time for those who wish to seek it out. I hope those of you that want to have access to the Hub.

Hub easily accessible if in UK. Neat solution imo.

Here we go: An actress friend, who asked not to be named, said the 45-year-old actor, writer and director's fall from grace is because 'no one likes it when a man of colour gets to the top'.
That is a blatant example of what is called 'playing the race card'. People may not like that term but it does sometimes ring true.

if she's a friend it may be hard for her to accept that he is not as nice as she thought.

I fail to see how stopping a series at the penultimate episode is solving anything. All it does is punish the other actors in the series.

The Daily Mail do like to exaggerate things like this.

I thought it was in The Guardian first?
www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/apr/29/actor-noel-clarke-accused-of-groping-harassment-and-bullying-by-20-women

The DM was a bit slow there.

I've never heard of him or the series.

(Head in the sand)

GillT57

I fail to see how stopping a series at the penultimate episode is solving anything. All it does is punish the other actors in the series.

Agree - it's filmed, edited and that is not fair on other cast members.

they'll still get paid.
i think they'll probably prefer not to be further associated with him now. could harm their own brand, and opportunities.

Yes, true

And does nothing for the women involved. We need to look at the culture that seems to be allowed to exist in some workplaces, it's too late after the event.

This is trial by media....surely he is innocent until proven guilty?

This is so odd. We have been watching the mini series
‘Viewpoint’
I’d never seen Noel Clarke before but right from the start I said to OH ^there’s something about him I don’t like’
He knows I’m very rarely wrong in spotting ‘them’ ?

Callistemon

^The Daily Mail do like to exaggerate things like this.^

I thought it was in The Guardian first?
www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/apr/29/actor-noel-clarke-accused-of-groping-harassment-and-bullying-by-20-women

The DM was a bit slow there.

Yes, you are right. I read about this chap in the Guardian this morning but didn't notice that people were calling for the programme to be taken off.

I am disapointed because I have recorded the first four episodes to watch the drama at a future date, but don't know if I will have time now before the last episode is taken off the hub.

I don't blame the women automatically though, I do tend to believe them, especially with so many accusations.

But yes, it must be hard if it is a friend.

Bum, we won’t know who done it.

Jaxjacky

Bum, we won’t know who done it.

It’s on ITV Hub tonight.

Nannatwiglet

This is trial by media....surely he is innocent until proven guilty?

We’ve been discussing that point upthread.

I am trying to think if anyone comes back from these accusations. Didn't the guy who played ken Barlow have a similar problem?