Why are we subjected to such rubbish

I wonder how long it takes after a makeover/declutter, etc to get the house back to the original state?

For me it's the ones where you have to bare all ( Naked Attraction / Embarrassing Bodies ) they show off the bits and bobs that only yourself or partner should see , and then I presume are happy in the knowledge that strangers , neighbours , work colleagues etc all now know you inside / out . Literally !

I always think that with naked attraction.
They have to face their colleagues and neighbours and parents after having got it all out!

MissAdventure

It's a shame, when we are all supposed to be much more aware of mental health issues that people dismiss this as dirty people who ought to be ashamed of themselves.

It's blatantly clear, most times, that something, some trauma, has led to their problems.

I do agree, MissAdventure but, as I mentioned above, I can see a difference between the older programmes which were aimed at helping people who could not overcome their hoarding difficulties due to psychological problems and the present-day programmes which just seem to be about the "I want to be on the telly" brigade.

Nobody has mentioned that we pay a licence fee and should therefore be able to watch some quality programmes, not the repetitive unedifying trash that swamps programme schedules.
I mentioned that last night, Jaxie but only to DH.

I wonder how long it takes after a makeover/declutter, etc to get the house back to the original state?
I say that every time (which isn't very often) that I watch one of those programmes Gongoozler

I do not watch television, but from what you are saying, it seems to e m that some people want som ething for free, and if exposing themselves is the only way to do it... well, then... so be it.

If people actually watched the programmes then they would know that generally, once people have had the initial help, they keep their place clean and tidy.
Not always as pristine, but I have yet to see one that has reverted back to the state it was in when they needed help.

For the TV companies it is summed up in one word ' Cheap'.

What on earth is the point of that cleaning element on that clear up cleaning programme. If someone says they are too busy to clean a cooker how does cleaning it for them enable them to clean it in the future, surely they will still be too busy. The storage I can understand, but really some folk can't seem to figure it out themselves. Only one episode seemed worthwhile; that involved a couple needing help to maneuvere his wheelchair in and out and round the garden.

My son watches the series about the British couple who own the Chateau in France. I had watched previous series and like both of them, especially I admire the woman’s artistic skills and her ability to see how her ideas would work out. Her husband has amazing practical skills and I really like them.

However, both of us think that no normal people could afford all they have done and I guess Channel 4 pay for the renovations, including the handy British tradesmen who seem to be around. Still, people enjoy the programme as it has survived many series and I guess we are rather envious of their skills and appealing personalities and wish we had similar attributes…..we still watch it and I guess a great many viewers enjoy it too.

"The likes of" Stacey Solomon? That's really rude. No need to be - she's a perfectly OK woman.

I wonder how long it takes after a makeover/declutter, etc to get the house back to the original state?

There is often a six-months-later update and the people have usually not gone back to their old ways.

On OCD Cleaners, the cleaners have often been officially diagnosed with OCD and some of them become less obsessive after helping others.

M0nica's post, on p1, makes good points.

It’s cheap to make, but people like Stacey get well paid. I think people would pay to see paint dry, they certainly do watch them eat dirt, as in I’m a Celeb. It’s a mystery it’s that daft.

No

The Stacey Solomon programme was very moving last night. Stacey is always so caring. I think that sometimes people reach desperation point.

I didn't see it, but that's nice to know.

4allweknow

What on earth is the point of that cleaning element on that clear up cleaning programme. If someone says they are too busy to clean a cooker how does cleaning it for them enable them to clean it in the future, surely they will still be too busy. The storage I can understand, but really some folk can't seem to figure it out themselves. Only one episode seemed worthwhile; that involved a couple needing help to maneuvere his wheelchair in and out and round the garden.

Aren't there a whole host of things people can't figure out for themselves?
How to stand up to bullying husbands.
How to say "no" to 53 year old 'children'.
How to stop crying because their grandchildren are growing up.
That's just some examples from threads on here...

I was on charity shop duty when 2 young eager TV researchers came in and asked if we knew any hoarders who needed their home clearing up. We declined to give names, because it's never that simple - it exposes a lot more than I think the person is aware of - and to what end - entertainment. Although I do have a soft spot for most of the TV hoarders and their stories.

They don’t worry me at all because I’ve never watched any of them. There’s plenty of other things to watch nowadays.

Jazzhands absolutely right to give no names.
It's fine if people seek this out for themselves but they shouldn't be pursued.

Anniel
Not all the chateau was done in one go. They concentrated on the parts where they could start their wedding venue business.
Have you seen the price of these weddings?
Don’t forget they were both very successful in their own right before they married.

I doubt if the production company pays much of the renovation cost of the Chateau series. It will be paid for by the owner, sponsorship and the free work of people who will benefit from the publicity of being able to refer to their presence on it.

This couple and the chateau are a business and the whole concept will have been worked up and they will have worked up and sold their story as a programme idea to a production company. - and why not, of it makes good viewing. They will be dropped pdq when it ceases to pull in viewers - and they know that this will happen. I haven't seen the programme - we have our own renovation property in France - and that is sufficient for us.

I doubt if the production company pays much of the renovation cost of the Chateau series. It will be paid for by the owner, sponsorship and the free work of people who will benefit from the publicity of being able to refer to their presence on it.

This couple and the chateau are a business and the whole concept will have been worked up and they will have worked up and sold their story as a programme idea to a production company. - and why not, of it makes good viewing. They will be dropped pdq when it ceases to pull in viewers - and they know that this will happen. I haven't seen the programme - we have our own renovation property in France - and that is sufficient for us.

i like shows like that, the hoarders was means that people get help and a nice tidy house to start again. you don't have to watch these programmes you can turn the tv off and stop complaining as there is some people that do like them.

Anniel

My son watches the series about the British couple who own the Chateau in France. I had watched previous series and like both of them, especially I admire the woman’s artistic skills and her ability to see how her ideas would work out. Her husband has amazing practical skills and I really like them.

However, both of us think that no normal people could afford all they have done and I guess Channel 4 pay for the renovations, including the handy British tradesmen who seem to be around. Still, people enjoy the programme as it has survived many series and I guess we are rather envious of their skills and appealing personalities and wish we had similar attributes…..we still watch it and I guess a great many viewers enjoy it too.

He has been on TV for years Annie. He did a previous eco house series with his first family! and then was on scrap metal challenge something or other. He is a very clever bloke though

if you have a dvd player maybe you could buy it!