Jimmy Carr. Loathsome A***

I didn't used to like Ricky Gervais but I loved After Life series 1&2 and I have just watched Derek and loved that too.

FannyCornforth

Talking of much missed comedians, they don’t come better of lovelier than Jeremy Hardy and Linda Smith.
I still feel sad when I think about Linda. She was so young ♥️

Me too.

I loved Derek but rather stupidly I couldnt get beyond the how is this happening in a residential home. I was the same with The Dumping Ground (set in a childrens home) why do they only have 2 staff and this childrens home needs shutting down immediately

I’m afraid I’m just too thick to understand your posts Whitewavemark2 but thank you for attempting to educate me.

Galaxy

I loved Derek but rather stupidly I couldnt get beyond the how is this happening in a residential home. I was the same with The Dumping Ground (set in a childrens home) why do they only have 2 staff and this childrens home needs shutting down immediately

Yes, I know what you mean There was so much negative feedback about him playing a man with LD but my friend who has a son with complex needs said to me how good it was, so I reluctantly watched it but he made Derek so sweet and human and so likable and I often think the problem facing a lot of people with LDs is that people do not see them as human, when in reality they have a lot to offer.

I realise I have overthought it all too

I usually avoid any programme with Jimmy Carr in it because his laugh grates on me so I have missed all of his jokes so far. If the examples posted here are typical then I will continue to avoid him. It takes skill and intelligence to raise awareness of issues through humour and it can be effective but not this time.

I’ve been thinking about this all of today.
And I’ve been trying to understand Carr’s motivation.
And I just keep coming up with the fact that he is a piece of filth.
And, yes, I do wish him ill,

What really upsets me is that so many people have so much talent, and they use it to create horrible, negative stuff.
I always think about this in relation to people who make horror movies.
The more that I think about Carr, the more upset I am about humanity

You better not think about pornography then FC.
Current pornography is apparently much much worse than anything we would have known about, when young.
I was very upset to hear about what is being normalised to young people especially girls and young women who are being told that 'rough sex' i.e. violence is a normal part of sex.

I just keep wishing that you hadn't put that photo in the OP, FannyCornforth

It makes me want to ?

I don't actually think he believes that the wholesale murder of groups of people was a positive, FC. His profession is saying things for effect and, yes, for educational value. Many people who heard or now know about the "joke`' will not have known that GRT people were victims of the Nazis. Now they do. As they should.

The fact of that history is far worse that the shockingness of what Carr said.

I like Ricky Gervais because he is not a misogynist which is a rarity amongst Male comedians at the moment, especially those who claim to be feminists, my pet theory about this it's down to his long term functioning relationship with a woman. Please nobody tell me about all the terrible things he has said to prove me wrong.

Oh I have just looked at Jimmy Carrs background, sigh, another one with a seemingly complex childhood and difficulties with his relationship with his father.

Never watched him,never wanted to. Theres a place for people like him.

It's called a Sewer!

His profession is saying things for effect

One of my MIL's sayings and advice:

"Ignore them, dear, he/she is just saying it for effect"

So I will.

Callistemon21

^His profession is saying things for effect^

One of my MIL's sayings and advice:

"Ignore them, dear, he/she is just saying it for effect"

So I will.

Good advice.

Far better approach than the Tw*tterification taking place here.

I didn't know the Roma people were part of the Holocaust, but I choose not to be "educated" in this way by Carr. He's also made jokes in the past about disabled people and war veterans in order to get a cheap laugh.

That’s how a free society works, rebel, except you have been “educated” by Carr’s remarks because you now know something you didn’t know before he let out his terrible “joke”.

Ailidh

I hadn't heard of Jimmy Carr.

By the sound of it I don't miss what I've been missing.

Me neither Ailidh. Well, I had heard mention of him but never listened to him. Never been fussed.

It is a widely used comedy tactic evoking upset to the amusement of many. I too often take offence, problem is knowing when to expect it, can be particularly upsetting when a previous favourite takes that road. Is it Inexcusable despite needing new material

I don’t agree with those who say ignore Carr and his vile ‘jokes’
That’s like the old advice to ignore bullies - it doesn’t stop them does it
Paddy Doherty of Big Fat Gypsy Wedding fame has asked the police to investigate what Carr said under the hate crime laws

I’m not a fan of no platforming but I hope this ends his career

He makes my skin crawl.

Perhaps Carr is being 'ironic' and it's gone completely over my head? Is he cleverly alerting us to our own 'isms' by highlighting prejudices?

Because he can't seriously believe that rape, disability and genocide actually has a 'funny' side to it. Can he?

I'm with Jo Brand on this... from a comment many years ago about such men as Carr...

The counter-argument, expressed most forcibly by Jo Brand, is that today's comedians pose as plain-speakers and PC refuseniks in order to smuggle in the kind of misogynist comedy last seen in the 1970s. The likes of Carr, says Brand, "appeal to all the people out there who think, 'Where have all those delicious anti-women jokes gone? We miss them.'" Brand identifies "almost a desperation to make [comedy] more unpalatable than it was before".

My youngest grandson has Roma forebears and I don't find the joke at all funny.

Baggs what do you mean by ‘Tw*tterfication’ please?
And am I being accused of it? (Whatever it is?)