WATCHING ...Harry & Meghan Netflix

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*Callistemon21*, regardless of who you are, if you don't want to be hugged, you're right, it is an intrusion. Can I just make it clear, I did not comment on Meghan's right or not to hug! I quoted the hug bit before the salient point to make it make sense and so I didn't quote the whole lot which makes these posts seem long winded...or even more long winded.

Um, I think I've got it!

There's wokeness all around us

(I woke up to the fact that I needn't hug people I don't want to hug, since Covid.)

Have you seen the trailer yet??

Apparently the best thing to look out for, according to Natalie Salmon of Hello Magzine, is not any revelations but:

As my WhatsApp filled up with messages from friends, "have you seen it yet" and "OMG can't wait to watch" we were all also asking each other the same thing... "did you notice she has an Hermès Avalon"?
The Hermès throw was at one point de rigueur for any self-respecting interior designer or influencer and now Meghan, who let’s face it has always had exquisite taste in interiors since her The Tig blogging days, has reignited our passion for the blanket specifically.

Just £1,260

Do you think Natalie missed the point?

Just been reading that the H&M Netflix episodes garnered more viewings than The Crown, but less than that night’s episode of Coronation Street.

Corrie is suffering from a batch of dire storylines at the moment, has been for some time, so their producers will be heartened to read this, I’m sure.

Most of the comments I have read in various places say people in general were more disgusted with H&M than before this documentary

And the curtain goes up on the next instalment!

More accusations and this time it's Harry saying 'they were happy to lie to protect my brother' and Meghan saying she was being 'fed to the wolves' but as always just innuendos and no mention of actual names or specific allegations.

This is all smoke and mirrors. Just such nonsense! But damaging nonsense.

Callistemon21

Have you seen the trailer yet??

Apparently the best thing to look out for, according to Natalie Salmon of Hello Magzine, is not any revelations but:

As my WhatsApp filled up with messages from friends, "have you seen it yet" and "OMG can't wait to watch" we were all also asking each other the same thing... "did you notice she has an Hermès Avalon"?
The Hermès throw was at one point de rigueur for any self-respecting interior designer or influencer and now Meghan, who let’s face it has always had exquisite taste in interiors since her The Tig blogging days, has reignited our passion for the blanket specifically.

Just £1,260

Do you think Natalie missed the point?

I think Natalie has nailed the point entirely. Vacuous rubbish and merching to make money from gullible people.

I bet Harry is s* scared
There is no way that this is going to work out for him.
Poor sod

As an American, reading this discussion I can see similarities with the binary split in our own political system. People seem to have made up their minds early and dug in. A lot of them sound angry. (Although certain political figures have given us a lot more to be angry about than H&M ever gave the Brits!)

I've watched the first three episodes, and am reserving judgement. So far, I like them. But I watched the Oprah interview when it was aired, and was much less charmed by them. So, I'll be interested to see in the next three episodes what happened to change them, especially her, to being so whiny and bitter.

So far, it seems to me that the real villains in this story are the paparazzi, the same bunch that killed Diana. Being endlessly stalked by that mob sounds like hell on earth.

GoldenLady We'd love to hear how this is all going down in America. But don't forget, as I said it's all smoke and mirrors, nothing can be verified and there are a lot of angry people who say they are telling outright lies. I mean people who were there and involved. The series is all 'acted' with photographers following them round. I mean is any of it actually real?

Princess Diana was hounded relentlessly and died in a car crash whilst not wearing a seat belt. H&M haven’t suffered anywhere near the paparazzi following that Diana did.

I haven’t watched the Netflix show; only seen trailers. From what I’ve seen today it looks like it’s changed from the love story into all out attack. Please remember this was all filmed whilst the Queen was alive and suffering from cancer. It’s unforgivable.

I think it may be dangerous for them to have strayed from criticising other members of the Royal Family, to making statements about employees professional competence.

They are talking about how professional failed to do their jobs and this could be judged to have an impact on people’s careers if it is clearly false, as in receiving no information or guidance.

Although the Royal Family will not respond, they may find that others will take action if their careers and earning capacity are affected by what has been very publicly stated.

Although nobody has been named, their identity is clear because of the roles and responsibilities held.

Californian here. Despite the few right-winged, Murdock-driven rags who will plant their occasional negative stories, the couple are generally pretty well liked. I had the pleasure of being at a charity event they attended two years ago, and they seemed really kind and very genuinely friendly. They chatted casually to anyone who spoke with them. Maybe it’s cultural but I find it odd that people get so upset at seeing a couple physically affectionate. I’d hate to be in a marriage where coldness and worrying about how others would perceive my love for my spouse dictated how I interacted. I’m sure many in the public in the U. K feel justified in their rabid hatred of the couple, but I live in a nation founded on it’s aversion to the very idea of a monarchy, so I cannot wrap my head around all the hysterics. “She’s trying to destroy our heritage” and other dramatics just comes off really bizarre to me. In the end, no amount of TV and internet means we know these people. Unless someone hurt a family member of yours, giving this much energy to people who don’t know you exist seems unhinged, liked Piers. Piers Morgan is an absolute headcase and I’m glad the American public largely ignores him. In the end, the couple seem to be thriving and that alone is victory enough for them. I wish them the best!

H&M haven’t suffered anywhere near the paparazzi following that Diana did.

How much should they suffer before they complain?

Complain all they like but they left the UK a few years ago so nothing to do with our media.

So easy to blame the newspapers.
It is the casual lies this couple tell, their callous attitude towards the late Queen in the last years of her life, their expectation that the King should fund their protection, the constant innuendoes directed at members of their own family, both sides, and their entitlement and arrogance that offend us.
And we don't care for Meghan's contempt for British traditions because she is too lazy to learn them.
It doesn't matter how many times it is stated that Meghan was warmly received and the public was pleased Harry had finally found someone to marry him, it is so much easier to believe the spurious charm and flattery they can summon up when earning money.

Well, Gingersbap, one of the things I really admire about Americans is their pride in their country and it’s traditions. I sometimes wonder if you realise quite how remarkable it is to achieve such a solid national identity in the midst of such diversity.

In spite of the grumbles I sometimes hear from Americans most of you are proud to be American and I’ve heard “the greatest country on earth” said more than once.

So I kind of feel that you probably could understand why people in Britain feel strongly about the things H and M are saying and doing.

GoldenLady
So far, it seems to me that the real villains in this story are the paparazzi, the same bunch that killed Diana. Being endlessly stalked by that mob sounds like hell on earth

Yes, the paparazzi have a lot to answer for but Diana died because she didn't put on a seatbelt and got in a car that was driven at reckless speed.

Diana was very young, shy and naïve when she married Charles.
Meghan was older, an actress used to the limelight and to campaigning when she married Harry.
She seemed to handle the publicity well.

I wonder if one bit of advice for anyone joining the Royal Family is never to read the rubbish printed about them in the media.

@Lathyrus,

I don’t much buy into the notion that any country is the greatest on Earth. All countries have aspects of greatness as well as things that should and are national shames. What I do know is that the every country has bigger issues than the interpersonal relationships of the rich and famous to focus on. All this boils down to the public being far too invested in celebrities that don’t know we exist. It’s a deeply unfortunate common trait of both our nations .

Gingersnapschap

@Lathyrus,

I don’t much buy into the notion that any country is the greatest on Earth. All countries have aspects of greatness as well as things that should and are national shames. What I do know is that the every country has bigger issues than the interpersonal relationships of the rich and famous to focus on. All this boils down to the public being far too invested in celebrities that don’t know we exist. It’s a deeply unfortunate common trait of both our nations .

Oh yes. I’m with you all the way about celebrities.

I still think the USA is pretty neat, though😁

Gingersnapschap

Staff members appointed to Meghan's office were handpicked by Harry and worked hard to make sure that Meghan had a full grounding in what was expected of her; the couple were welcomed here and seemed to be happy to fulfil the various commitments they took on at first.

We mustn't forget the reputations of these people are being trashed by the hints, the innuendo, the insinuations that are being made about them yet they have no way of putting the record straight.
They may have suffered then from bullying and may still be suffering now as a result - but cannot give their side of the story.

They are talking about how professional failed to do their jobs and this could be judged to have an impact on people’s careers if it is clearly false, as in receiving no information or guidance

This rewriting of the narrative really must be quite distressing for those staff members and their families.

Gingersnap we have pride in our country and it's history as I'm sure you do, so the way these two are trashing and disrespecting the late Queen and her family is upsetting. As you know, she served her country faultlessly for 70 years and this show of betrayal towards the family is too much for many people. Especially as it's based on unproven accusations and proven lies. We understand that you don't understand, but that's how many people feel.

Gingersnapschap

@Lathyrus,

I don’t much buy into the notion that any country is the greatest on Earth. All countries have aspects of greatness as well as things that should and are national shames. What I do know is that the every country has bigger issues than the interpersonal relationships of the rich and famous to focus on. All this boils down to the public being far too invested in celebrities that don’t know we exist. It’s a deeply unfortunate common trait of both our nations .

Interesting!

I wonder if other countries do this?

tickingbird

Complain all they like but they left the UK a few years ago so nothing to do with our media.

They were complaining about the media before they left the Uk! It has everything to do with our media.

UK media were not chasing them - printing stuff granted. There is no comparison to Diana. They are comparing their situation to Diana’s. They are in the US so why keep banging on about the UK?

Initially they wanted to be half in and half out but when the late Queen told them that wasn’t possible they became combative. Obviously it can’t have been as bad as they say or they would have wanted fully out. Basically, they wanted to do the bits they liked and stay as part of the Royal ‘firm’ but live in the sunshine, carry on being bankrolled by Charles and keep round the clock security paid for by us.

Entitled much?

Callistemon21

Gingersnapschap

Staff members appointed to Meghan's office were handpicked by Harry and worked hard to make sure that Meghan had a full grounding in what was expected of her; the couple were welcomed here and seemed to be happy to fulfil the various commitments they took on at first.

We mustn't forget the reputations of these people are being trashed by the hints, the innuendo, the insinuations that are being made about them yet they have no way of putting the record straight.
They may have suffered then from bullying and may still be suffering now as a result - but cannot give their side of the story.

They are talking about how professional failed to do their jobs and this could be judged to have an impact on people’s careers if it is clearly false, as in receiving no information or guidance

This rewriting of the narrative really must be quite distressing for those staff members and their families.

The thing is, I wasn’t there and I have no reason to believe the people saying Megan and Harry are lying about everything are telling the truth about everything any more than the other way around. And the race-tinged vitriol, even on this site, makes me far less inclined to make Megan and Harry villains. Someone even suggested here on Gransnet that the racism was her fault for talking about it. People are unhinged about this couple. I disagree wholeheartedly about Megan being welcomed because that was not the perception on this side of the pond. The British press can be passive aggressive it certainly showed. I felt bad that she appeared to be naive enough to fall in love with someone who was attached to the “structure” of the Royal Family and thought things would go smoothly. She was an outsider and appears to have been treated thusly. Also, when one of your own police chiefs verifies the threats and harassment, I find it hard to believe the narrative of this so-called welcoming she received. That plus the passive aggression actually makes me happy she and Harry decided to make a life here. Maybe they did or didn’t tell some lies but if you think I look at the folks of the “Firm” as these innocent, benevolent, honest victims who were always without prejudice you would be mistaken. I’ve seen enough, even recently with those associated with the RF, to know there aren’t as many bias-free angels working there as this site would have you believe.