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Phillip schofield

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nellenoxin Sat 27-May-23 18:11:44

Am I being a bit slow but why is Phillip Schofield being thrown under the bus now? He came out about his sexuality , now revelations about an affair with consensual teenager that he covered up to protect identity , Maybe I'm being naïve but not sure why there has been such a big disconnect from TV at this point .

Doodledog Fri 02-Jun-23 08:56:44

It reminded me of the Price Andrew interview, in that both men thought that they could control the narrative and manage crisis limitation with their personality alone. And then didn't.
Is he being advised by his own PR, or is ITV's team behind this?

Bringing up Caroline Flack, brushing over the Holly dimension, claiming to care more about the boy than himself, even playing on the distress of his family - all of that seemed fake.

I'm not sure that apologising is the right thing to do in this case. It can be very difficult for people to apologise sometimes, as there is always some 'mind reader' who will insist that they are 'only sorry that they got found out', or whatever - basically blocking their right to show contrition. People don't always want to listen, and revel in the humiliation of someone they don't like. Plus, it's not BBC viewers who are owed an apology. It is the boy, his family, PS's own family, and anyone else directly involved in this sorry saga.

Then there are the allegations of bullying and unpleasantness on the 'toxic' set of This Morning. They weren't explored. Up to a point, probably for the same reasons, but he could have apologised for that, I think - or at least acknowledged that he has clearly upset a lot of people. All the 'how much can I take?' stuff ignores what he did to many people who appeared on his show - the people who are now getting their revenge by talking about his impact on them.

He also claimed that the runner wasn't taxied to and from his flat. That could well prove to be a very foolish claim, as there is a good chance that even if receipts have been destroyed or bought back, someone will be able to testify about it.

Again, this is not about someone having an extra-marital affair. If that were the case I would be defending his right to privacy. It goes a lot deeper than that, and I'm not at all convinced that his attempts to minimise it all will succeed, and give that a lot of the furore is about lies, this could really backfire for him if anything is shown to be untruthful.

(It may well be an attempt to blow the smoke over something else, of course - The Interview is being covered by all and sundry now).

Galaxy Fri 02-Jun-23 09:14:33

But he is very skilled at what he is doing, he has manipulated the interviewer and the BBC in my view.
As an aside the CF be kind thing did incredible damage.
It was impossible to say it at the time though.

Ailidh Fri 02-Jun-23 09:17:57

I agree, Primrose53. I hope someone's looking after Her in this.

Doodledog Fri 02-Jun-23 09:34:18

I'm not sure that he has manipulated the interviewer. He has been given rope which may be used to hang him.

If the story is true (that something 'just happened') and if he hasn't done this before, and if there is not an influx of boys coming forward with similar accusations, then the matter might drop. But that still doesn't explain how nobody knew about it despite years of speculation on social media, and it doesn't address the fact that he has put others in the situation he is describing as untenable now that it's he who is in the spotlight.

Kerry Katona, for instance - he showed no duty of care towards her when she appeared drunk/on drugs on TM. He let the interview go ahead and pressed her on her appearance and parenting. He claimed to have done it out of 'care', but she doesn't agree - far from it - look up 'Kerry Katona Phillip Schofield' on YouTube.

Other people have come forward to say that their lives were ruined by his treatment of them - ordinary people who have been in the news for things like claiming benefits and talking about buying 'unsuitable' things, and then had to go back to their neighbourhoods where they were reviled and their children bullied. A bit like the things that came out about Jeremy Kyle 'guests'. He didn't care about any of that, and whilst those people didn't lose £millions in future earnings as he will, they have far less by way of opportunities to escape their notoriety amongst the neighbours.

Galaxy Fri 02-Jun-23 09:42:47

I think the way the interviewer talked about him afterwards was vaguely telling, I thought there was quite a bit of sympathy and I think there was a distinct lack of challenge within the interview.
To be fair no one has shown a duty of care to Kerry Katona across many mediums.
I have always thought TM was not harmless, it tried to tackle issues that were way beyond its skillset.
I have mentioned it before but the interview they gave to the man who had his child removed and then fought to have them returned was horrendous. Of course in those situations the social workers cant respond.
He is currently in prison for causing the death of the child.

Doodledog Fri 02-Jun-23 09:52:55

I didn't see the interviewer talk - I watched it on iPlayer. I agree that there was little challenge in the interview.

I also agree that Kerry Katona has been traded shabbily across the board, but that doesn't exonerate PS. And she is not the only example. I don't watch TM, but have seen numerous clips of him exposing others far less media savvy than he is to public ridicule without a moment's care. I don't know the case you mention about the man who killed his child. It sounds terrible, and is maybe another case like the ones I'm talking about.

His claiming that he is being victimised just seems the pot calling the kettle black, or live by the sword and die by the sword, (or one of many such cliches grin)

tickingbird Fri 02-Jun-23 10:02:27

I know the case Galaxy mentions and, quite honestly, it’s heartbreaking. She was living happily with her grandparents, loved and cared for and had to go back to them. It wasn’t long before he killed her.

Kate1949 Fri 02-Jun-23 10:08:27

The interview is on BBC News Channel now. It comes across as a pity party and 'poor me'. Its embarrassing.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 02-Jun-23 10:13:17

Part of the interview has just been shown on This Morning and they are discussing the Phillip situation which must be extremely difficult for them.

I have no idea if PS is guilty of grooming or not, workplace relationships are a minefield always have been and always will be.

It’s good to remember that there are many peoples lives affected by this media frenzy not just PS.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 02-Jun-23 10:25:44

Where on earth is the BBCs judgement! Listening to Scholfield being interviewed - well as much as I could stand - for goodness sake.

Blondiescot Fri 02-Jun-23 10:27:30

That's exactly what I thought too, Kate1949. It was all about him. Typical narcissistic behaviour.

Galaxy Fri 02-Jun-23 10:36:49

Just to be clear I am not defending PS 😯. My worry is I thought the interview demonstrated quite considerable skills of manipulation.

henetha Fri 02-Jun-23 10:42:07

Yes, particularly his wife and family.
I don't know much about PS. But am I the only one on here who feels a bit sorry for him? Am I the only one who feels that once anyone strays from being perfect then the knives are out for them big time?
It must be the case that many people in the world of tv etc have inappropriate affairs and lie about them, and in the outside world too of course.
I am truly not condoning his behaviour, but how many of us have never made mistakes in our lives? I certainly have.
I'll probably now get heaps of criticism confused

Whitewavemark2 Fri 02-Jun-23 10:44:43

Galaxy

Just to be clear I am not defending PS 😯. My worry is I thought the interview demonstrated quite considerable skills of manipulation.

It is what the media does. Scholfield will have undoubtedly used the same techniques in his life. He will be totally familiar with them, and from what I could see was milking it for all he was worth.

I have only ever seen Scholfield in the odd clip, so was totally unaware/uninterested in him and his work collegues, who, as far as I can see are now being told to press the “we are all one happy family” button for our edification🙄

Blondiescot Fri 02-Jun-23 10:46:06

The thing is, henetha, when you make a career out of interviewing people on television and often being incredibly judgemental about them ie, Kerry Katona et al), then you're putting yourself into a completely different realm to the likes of you or I.

Kate1949 Fri 02-Jun-23 10:48:02

A narcissist indeed Blondiescot. I worked closely with a woman once who was a complete narcissist. She upset and belittled many people including me. She was oblivious to anyone else's feeling. When she was pulled up by management she was shocked. She said she thought everyone loved her.

henetha Fri 02-Jun-23 10:52:38

My problem is that I never watch TM, so don't really know him, as I said in an earlier post I think. I do take your point, and you have put it nicely, so thank you for that. So he is being a hypocrite at least.
However, it still does seem to me that anyone who gets found out, for whatever crime or misdemeanour, does get brutally attacked, verbally, by all and sundry who don't really know all the facts.
I always end up by being sorry for such people. Must be some stupid flaw in my character, for some reason. I accept that I am a softie smile

Kate1949 Fri 02-Jun-23 10:52:57

henetha I think there has been an over reaction to this too. Maybe it's because of the Savile etc scandals. They are perhaps panicking in case more comes out. I don't agree with what Schofield said in the interview that the reaction is due to homophobia.

henetha Fri 02-Jun-23 10:53:33

That was a thank you to Blondiescot. I forgot to say.

henetha Fri 02-Jun-23 10:55:12

Thanks also, Kate1949. I agree with that. I don't think homophobia comes into this.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 02-Jun-23 10:55:17

This is the real news and the attempt at suppression of information, not the non- story that the bbc has been leading with.

Blondiescot Fri 02-Jun-23 10:57:34

Agreed, Whitewavemark2, not to mention Michelle Mone and the associated PPE scandal. Where's the outrage about that?

GrannyGravy13 Fri 02-Jun-23 10:59:49

Kate1949

henetha I think there has been an over reaction to this too. Maybe it's because of the Savile etc scandals. They are perhaps panicking in case more comes out. I don't agree with what Schofield said in the interview that the reaction is due to homophobia.

I also do not think the reaction to this latest fall from grace and subsequent media feeding frenzy has anything to do with homophobia.

The press like nothing more than building a pedestal, putting someone upon it then slowly watching and waiting for them to mess up in some form in order tat they an be knocked of said pedestal.

Unfortunately they do not seem to realise that these actions have ripples which affect so many other lives and none of us (including the media) know the mental health of all those involved.

I really hope that PS and the others have support and that he does not try to take his own life over this.

FannyCornforth Fri 02-Jun-23 11:01:38

Like Tickingbird upthread, I’m convinced that he’s still lying in order to protect the top brass.

He’s taking the flack and will be paid handsomely for it.

(And he’ll need every penny that he can get, because Stephanie will take him to the cleaners.)

There is still more to this

Kate1949 Fri 02-Jun-23 11:01:54

I've just watched This Morning. They showed a clip from the interview. Alison Hammond was very upset. She said she loved him and they were a family at TM. It was sad.