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“ I wonder, I wonder” That Cunard ad on tv.

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Foxygloves Thu 14-Sept-23 21:37:53

This really annoys me! I can’t quite say why , but the voice irritates me and the suggestions he makes seem very trite.
The 40-second ad invites us “to dream of love, banquets, journeys and music beyond all belief and then, once you have done all that, forget that you were dreaming”. It features the voice of British philosopher, writer, and speaker Alan Watts. But it grates. Certainly doesn’t make me want to book a Cunard cruise!
Anybody else? www.facebook.com/cunard/videos/dreams/691381431376561/

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 14-Sept-23 21:51:53

I haven’t seen it but it sounds ridiculous. I have never wanted to go on a cruise anyway - the ad which talks of a cruise with ‘just 900-odd like-minded people’ says it all for me.

Attlee Thu 14-Sept-23 22:08:32

Like most ads, it's a distortion of reality. I suppose that's what the point of them is, create a dream in someone's imagination.
We went on a lovely cruise (not Cunard) but wouldn't rush to do another.
We certainly weren't languishing on sunbeds in the dark, dreaming of banquets, love, journeys or music.
The laundry was handy though 😉

Luckygirl3 Thu 14-Sept-23 22:11:26

I am so glad you posted this. I cannot bear that ad ... everything about it induces severe nausea. I turn the sound off every time it comes on. Glad I am not the only crabby old bat!! grin

Jane43 Thu 14-Sept-23 22:12:55

It is rather irritating I agree but it does remind me of the Caribbean cruise we went on in 1990 for our 25th wedding anniversary on the Cunard Countess. It was an amazing experience and if I went on another cruise, not likely, it would be with Cunard. Two of my uncles worked on Cunard ships in the 1950s as stewards on The Queen Elizabeth and The Queen Mary, they went to and from New York and came home with huge sums of money from tips. They gave us a selection of menus which were works of art in themselves but unfortunately my father gave them away much to my mother’s disgust. I don’t like the advertisement but it does take me down memory lane.

Moonwatcher1904 Thu 14-Sept-23 22:15:43

I always find this ad a bit creepy. It's doesn't promote a cruise to me and I've been on one.

Callistemon21 Thu 14-Sept-23 22:20:16

I thought it was someone trying (and failing) to imitate the late Richard Burton.

Oreo Thu 14-Sept-23 22:56:23

I haven’t noticed this ad so far, but tbh it would really be a dream for me to go on a Cunard cruise.Can’t see it happening so will have to stay as a dream.

Callistemon21 Thu 14-Sept-23 23:19:52

Are they allowed to use his voice, his thoughts, like that for something advertising consumerism?

MiniMoon Thu 14-Sept-23 23:36:28

I've been on a Cunard seven night transatlantic crossing, but it was in December. No lying dreaming on sun loungers. If you did venture on to the promenade deck it was cold and windy.
That ad certainly hasn't prompted me to book a Cunard cruise though, I think it's rather silly.

Calendargirl Fri 15-Sept-23 07:23:33

Let’s face it, most of the holiday adverts promise much but often fail to meet expectations.

Happy children frolicking together in the pool, (not whining and arguing), Mum looking slim, tanned and glamorous in a bikini ( not plump, white and sweating), and then the loved-up couple enjoying a glass of champagne on the terrace overlooking the ocean, not debating whether to have fish and chips or a burger in the local cafe to economise.

The adverts are there to sell the dream, the same as the show house home, the perfect hair, skin, clothes…..

eazybee Fri 15-Sept-23 08:29:46

I find it immensely irritating, and the voiceover trite and rather pointless, to say the least.

Redhead56 Fri 15-Sept-23 08:35:30

I wonder I wonder what it’s all about oh it’s just a patronising advert!

BigBertha1 Fri 15-Sept-23 09:11:23

'I loathe this bloody advert' can be heard from me every time its on. grin

pascal30 Fri 15-Sept-23 09:24:18

Germanshepherdsmum

I haven’t seen it but it sounds ridiculous. I have never wanted to go on a cruise anyway - the ad which talks of a cruise with ‘just 900-odd like-minded people’ says it all for me.

I think it can only mean that they're like minded by all choosing that cruise GSM so definitely not for me...

Callistemon21 Fri 15-Sept-23 10:47:20

I keep thinking he's then going to go on to narrate The War of the Worlds.

Littleannie Fri 15-Sept-23 10:55:27

So she has the pool all to herself? The restaurant is practically empty? Nobody else on deck? In your dreams!

Caravansera Fri 15-Sept-23 11:37:59

The ad is four years old now and was made originally to run in cinemas before the 2019 Downtown Abbey film. At the time, Cunard marketing director David Milo Jones said: We know that many of our target audience of discerning travellers are passionate Downton Abbey fans, so a return to the big screen was too good an opportunity for us to miss.

travelweekly.co.uk/articles/342731/cunard-makes-cinema-ad-debut-with-downtown-abbey-film

In January 2023, The Spectator’s Gus Carter was moved to write a rather (pun intended) acid piece about the sixties Zen Buddhist pop philosopher:

www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-paradox-of-alan-watts/

Setting Timothy Leary and Allen Ginsberg among the passengers would be interesting.

The real Dream of Life text:

If you awaken from this illusion and you understand that black implies white, self implies other, life implies death (or shall I say death implies life?), you can feel yourself – not as a stranger in the world, not as something here on probation, not as something that has arrived here by fluke - but you can begin to feel your own existence as absolutely fundamental.

I am not trying to sell you on this idea in the sense of converting you to it, I want you to play with it. I want you to think of its possibilities, I am not trying to prove it. I am just putting it forward as a possibility of life to think about.

So then, let’s suppose that you were able every night to dream any dream you wanted to dream, and that you could, for example, have the power within one night to dream 75 years of time, or any length of time you wanted to have. And you would, naturally, as you began on this adventure of dreams, you would fulfill all your wishes. You would have every kind of pleasure you could conceive.

And after several nights of 75 years of total pleasure each you would say “Well that was pretty great. But now let’s have a surprise, let’s have a dream which isn’t under control, where something is gonna happen to me that I don’t know what it's gonna be.And you would dig that and would come out of that and you would say “Wow that was a close shave, wasn’t it?”. Then you would get more and more adventurous and you would make further- and further-out gambles what you would dream.

And finally, you would dream where you are now. You would dream the dream of living the life that you are actually living today. That would be within the infinite multiplicity of choices you would have. Of playing that you weren't God, because the whole nature of the godhead, according to this idea, is to play that he is not. So in this idea then, everybody is fundamentally the ultimate reality, not God in a politically kingly sense, but god in the sense of being the self, the deep-down basic whatever there is. And you are all that, only you are pretending you are not.

It seems to be me that a cruise would be the exact opposite of what Watts is suggesting here:

let’s have a surprise, let’s have a dream which isn’t under control, where something is gonna happen to me that I don’t know what it's gonna be … Then you would get more and more adventurous and you would make further- and further-out gambles what you would dream.

Cruises strike me as the most predictable, least adventurous and most controlled kind of holiday one could take where one knows exactly what is going to happen . I know that some people enjoy them but they aren't the kind of free-spirited adventure that Watts was alluding to.

Grantanow Fri 15-Sept-23 11:49:27

I've enjoyed some cruises and I'll be on Cunard next year but I've never seen the advert. People one meets on cruises vary a lot - it can widen ones horizons. I've never met anyone I really disliked, just a few with little in common.

vampirequeen Fri 15-Sept-23 15:08:48

If you could make anything you dream come true then you could find a cure for cancer, end world hunger, bring world peace, give everyone clean water, give everyone unlimited free power....in fact you could do everything that needs to be done to make the world a better place, or you could just go on a luxury cruise. What type of person is Cunard aiming this advert at?

MayBee70 Sat 16-Sept-23 19:59:12

No matter how many times I hear it I can never remember at the beginning what it’s for. Maybe the message is subliminal but, if it is I don’t seem to have had a sudden urge to go on a cruise.

Nyman1962 Sun 17-Sept-23 11:13:16

This ad caused a bit of a rift with my husband months ago!
He asked me if I would dream of having love affairs and in the voiceover, and I replied that I may well do so, I suppose.

Which irritated him, and he told me to go off and have one if I felt like that. Needless to say I haven't nor would I!

missdeke Sun 17-Sept-23 11:24:51

Nauseatingly trite, but so are so many ads and so puerile, do the ad companies think we are all mindless idiots. And if I hear one more ad with Brian Blessed shouting I will scream.

Cossy Sun 17-Sept-23 11:25:59

Ad grates on me, and no cruise for me, too many others sharing my space !

Lindy Sun 17-Sept-23 11:41:32

Me too Foxygloves! His voice is so annoying I cringe every time it comes on.