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Joan Collins and Louis Theroux interview

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granfromafar Tue 21-Nov-23 21:28:10

On BBC 2 now
Anyone watching this? She is amazing for 90! Obviously her hair is dyed, (or is it a wig?) and is heavily made up but still looks great. Very watchable.

Iam64 Sat 25-Nov-23 21:19:10

I’m a typical English/Scot/Irish/danish/French mongrel or so my dna tells me

Fleurpepper Sat 25-Nov-23 21:19:58

MerylStreep

Fleurpepper isn’t Scottish, she’s Swiss living in Switzerland.

I am British, currently living in Switzerland. Not that it is anyone's business, or makes any difference.

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 25-Nov-23 21:20:03

What do you mean by ‘Lebedev (blackmail)’ FP? What evidence do you have that he is a security risk? And please clarify what damage he has done.
Btw you are confusing ‘eg’ (exempli gratia) with ‘ie’ (id est).

Callistemon21 Sat 25-Nov-23 21:27:04

Anniel

MerylStreep

Fleurpepper isn’t Scottish, she’s Swiss living in Switzerland.

I sit back in amazement! Fleur Pepper lives in Switzerland! I love that country! My sister in law has a Swiss husband and we get on very well. I always thought Fleur Pepper was a Scot. All I can say is lucky you FP! only drawback is that Switzerland is an extremely expensive country in which to live. My late husband and I visited Thun to meet his sister and her husband. It was a last goodbye for him because he died soon after and they returned to Australia where they now live. but Thun is still his home town.

I'm not sure that Fleurpepper ever gave any indication that she is a Scot living in Scotland. 🤔

There are a number of Scottish Gransnetters, however.
Joan's husband Percy is half-Scottish/Irish.

Fleurpepper Sat 25-Nov-23 21:32:58

Germanshepherdsmum

What do you mean by ‘Lebedev (blackmail)’ FP? What evidence do you have that he is a security risk? And please clarify what damage he has done.
Btw you are confusing ‘eg’ (exempli gratia) with ‘ie’ (id est).

Well, let's go back to my initial comment. This is exactly why the one interesting thing to ask Joan C was about what happened that week-end. All we know is that he went, as Foreign Secretary, against all advice, to Lebedev's party (drunken/drug/women provided orgy). He was still very drunk and disheveled at the airport the next day, barely knew his name and couldn't walk properly. So it is very likely he was filmed and very likely it led to blackmail, and that it was later linked to Lebedev's peerage, and more. So yes, it would be VERY interesting to know what Joan C witnessed that night.

That was soon after the Salisbury poisoning. And of course at the time of Russian interference in UK's affairs, Brexit vote and possibly more.

MayBee70 Sat 25-Nov-23 21:33:20

So. If eg David Cameron, now that he’s foreign Secretary went to a party in Italy which was hosted by a Russian oligarch and attended by people like Katie Price. And was then photographed travelling home in a dishevelled state, obviously the worse for wear. And then put that oligarch into the House of Lords. Would that be deemed to be acceptable. Or is the fact that Johnson was a complete car crash of a politician absolve him of any wrongdoing because it’s ‘just Boris’? Should we just laugh and forget about it?

Fleurpepper Sat 25-Nov-23 21:34:00

Do a bit of research, it is all out there.

Seakay Sat 25-Nov-23 21:36:35

BlueBelle

She looks terrible not because she’s 90 but because of all the horrendous work she’s had done on her poor face Callestamom She’d look so much better if she did look 90

"In a recent interview with The Guardian, the 90-year-old actress and author opened up about the skincare tips she lives by and revealed why she has never had any cosmetic procedures. "I've had nothing done," she told the outlet when complimented on her skin. "I couldn't do all that."
people.com/joan-collins-says-she-had-nothing-done-to-her-face-7975145#:~:text=In%20a%20recent%20interview%20with,couldn't%20do%20all%20that.

Fleurpepper Sat 25-Nov-23 21:37:18

Katie Price apparently was busy under the table where Johnson was and was removed after she flashed her boobs at him and all in attendance. But I am not bothered about that.

As for me giving an indication I am Scottish, no I did not. Neither did I give any indication that I live in Switzerland (as a British citizen) - I was outed by someone, who tricked me by pm.

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 25-Nov-23 21:37:18

‘Very likely it led to blackmail’. You are skating on very thin ice - that is libellous, as are your references to the Salisbury poisonings and Russian interference in UK politics. I would suggest you ask for your post to be deleted.

Fleurpepper Sat 25-Nov-23 21:37:45

Not at all.

Fleurpepper Sat 25-Nov-23 21:44:34

Concerns were all over the HoC, the HoL and the Press, including the Telegraph and other Tory papers. Here from the Independent in July 2022

''Boris Johnson’s revelation that he met with ex-KGB agent Alexander Lebedev at the height of the Salisbury poisoning scandal suggests a “serious security breach” took place, Labour has said.

Shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper branded the private encounter between the then foreign secretary and Mr Lebedev “*unthinkable” given its timing in the aftermath of a chemical attack on UK soil.*

During an appearance before the Liaison Committee on Wednesday, Mr Johnson admitted for the first time he had met the Russian oligarch without officials present in April 2018.

Pressure has been mounting on the Prime Minister since then to explain the nature of the meeting – which happened straight after a Nato summit on how to respond to the Kremlin – and whether it was properly disclosed.

Ms Cooper and deputy Labour leader Angela Rayner have now written to Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster Kit Malthouse calling for an investigation into the “murky affair”.

We actually need to know the facts about what happened and why on earth he was so irresponsible with our national security at that time
Yvette Cooper

Speaking to Sky’s Sophy Ridge on Sunday, the shadow home secretary said: “We don’t know what happened at this meeting, we don’t know even whether the Prime Minister actually declared the meeting properly or told officials about it afterwards.

“It just feels unthinkable that at a time when we had a chemical attack on UK soil, and it was so serious that we had a Nato meeting about it, about how to respond to Russia, at that time you can have a foreign secretary who would then just go and have a meeting with an ex-KGB agent, someone who has since been sanctioned by Canada for close links to Putin.

“*To have that meeting at that time shows a careless disregard for national security risks. We actually need to know the facts about what happened and why on earth he was so irresponsible with our national security at that time.*”

She pointed to the scandal as part of a wider pattern of alleged problematic behaviour from the Prime Minister and said it suggested a “serious security breach” took place.

“I think the problem is that you have somebody who’s still in Downing Street who no-one thinks has any duties, any sense of duty to the country, who’s been responsible for lies, for law-breaking and also today’s allegations around abuse of power towards a young woman while he was Mayor of London,” Ms Cooper told the programme.''

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 25-Nov-23 21:54:08

Your post goes much further - do you not realise that? You have made direct allegations against Johnson and Lebedev, and they are libellous.

Fleurpepper Sat 25-Nov-23 22:00:38

Not at all.

Back to Joan. Some are interested in the tittle tattle, the botox, plastic surgery, and such stuff. I would be interested in knowing what she witnessed this week-end- and believe that would be a lot more important. Your choice, my choice.

Nanatoone Sat 25-Nov-23 22:01:13

Ignoring the politics here as Joan is an actor and not a politician, I thought it was less interesting than I hoped. Yes she’s demanding, I suspect living her life and being 90 probably make that inevitable. I love Louis, I didn’t see the Saville programme but am interested in seeing it. The Pete Doherty interview was better I thought, he is a mess.

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 25-Nov-23 22:10:43

I, as a lawyer, tell you that your post is libellous FP. ‘^Not at all^’ you reply. Breathtaking.

DrWatson Sun 26-Nov-23 02:37:57

For Lucky -- it wouldn't have mattered what Theroux might have known about the odious Savile -- he had the protection of Thatcher AND the Royals, who all thought he was great due to the charity fund-raising.

Fleurpepper Sun 26-Nov-23 10:00:56

Count to 10 and breathe slowly.

The possibility that he may have been blackmailed because of his behaviour that week-end, plied with drink, and very possibly a lot more - has been voiced by many. I should have put a question mark. As said, many have wondered for a long time why Katie Price and Joan Collins were not interviewed to find our more about what happened- and feel that Theroux had the perfect opportunity to do so. A lot more interesting, for some, many of us, than the tittle tattle. Will not reply.

merlotgran Sun 26-Nov-23 10:08:44

many have wondered for a long time why Katie Price and Joan Collins were not interviewed to find our more about what happened

Maybe they should have interviewed your ubiquitous friend who would have been under the table as well!

GrannyGravy13 Sun 26-Nov-23 10:20:39

GN is akin to Alice falling down the rabbit hole sometimes

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 26-Nov-23 10:26:32

Now we have a suggestion that Johnson was plied with drugs as well as drink. At least if FP will not reply she won’t be making more libellous comments. I won’t hold my breath though. ‘Many have wondered’ - not on here it seems. Alice indeed.

Callistemon21 Sun 26-Nov-23 10:32:18

GrannyGravy13

GN is akin to Alice falling down the rabbit hole sometimes

Oh yes, I often feel like Alice when reading some posts 😁 🐰

MerylStreep Sun 26-Nov-23 14:00:50

FleurPepper
It was a much loved, no longer with us member who told me you are Swiss. GreatNan.

Anniel Sun 26-Nov-23 14:10:18

I have to say reading this last page, I am even more intrigued by Fleur Pepper. Most Grans living overseas do not mind other Grans knowing they are not in UK. However, FP was tricked into revealing that she lives in Switzerland. Many moons ago dear husband and I so enjoyed meeting our family members who had a home there that we considered buying a home in France close to the Swiss border ( we could not afford a house in Switzerland) So FP I feel quite jealous of you but did not expect a Swiss dweller to have such a detailed knowledge and interest of the parties attended by Boris and Joan Collins. And so cool about making libellous comments even if warned by a British lawyer. It as though British law does not apply to her or maybe him. I love a good mystery!

Callistemon21 Sun 26-Nov-23 15:53:32

However, FP was tricked into revealing that she lives in Switzerland

Possibly not as many posters who have been on here for years know FleurPepper lives in Switzerland, having lived in the UK for many years before that. FleurPepper has said so herself on more than one occasion, so I'm not sure why there is a problem.