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Harry and Meghan: The Rise And Fall.

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Calendargirl Sun 18-Aug-24 07:53:31

Who watched this last night on Channel 5?

Second part tonight.

Must admit my eyes closed the last 20 minutes or so, will have to re-watch that bit.

Wish it had been 8.00-9.30 instead of 9.00-10.30.

Thought it seemed reasonably ‘balanced’.

RosiesMaw2 Mon 19-Aug-24 18:06:39

We know that Archie wasn't denied a title because he's mixed race - how do you know this?
Because
Title rules set out by King George V in 1917 gave the children and grandchildren of a sovereign the automatic right to the HRH, prince and princess titles. When Archie was born, he was the great-grandchild of a sovereign. rather than a grandchild, so was not given the title

Smileless2012 Mon 19-Aug-24 18:10:45

It's well known that Charles couldn't bestow the title of Prince onto Archie until he was king Luckygirl. something private between themselves is not the same as being married which they claimed to be the case when talking to Oprah. Good grief even the Archbishop of Canterbury had to eventually quash that fabrication. His 'recollection' at how he received the news about the death of his GM wasn't one error it was another lie.

Sparklefizz Mon 19-Aug-24 19:00:47

Luckygirl3

*There's not a rift "because he would not toe the line", there's a rift because of the cruel, spiteful and untrue things he said about his family.* How do you know they are untrue? I don't know whether they are. Where does your privileged knowledge come from?

quite a number have moved to the US where they live anonymous lives in suburban houses with jobs that earn them a living. - do you think the media would let him do that? I don't.

It's not "privileged knowledge" Luckygirl3 - anyone who kept on top of the News at the time read about it. Many of their accusations were proven to be untrue. He claimed so many petty things - that he had never been taken on a bike ride with his father for instance - photos then appeared of him doing exactly that as a small boy. And so it went on ......

Gossamerbeynon1945 Mon 19-Aug-24 21:52:20

I do not like them/

Oreo Mon 19-Aug-24 22:00:22

AGAA4

I've always thought that Meghan has manipulated Harry to always get her own way. He seems weak maybe through his upbringing and losing his mother was a huge blow.
Harry found a woman who could think for him as in " I didn't know how angry I was till Meghan told me".
I don't hate these two. Just find them rather pathetic.

I think you’re right, but there was also a burning desire to get revenge on ‘the firm’ for not allowing Meghan to sparkle as the top dog, I believe she thought of herself as a Disney Princess who would wow the family and the country.

Oreo Mon 19-Aug-24 22:01:12

Gossamerbeynon1945

I do not like them/

Short and sweet hey?😄

Luckygirl3 Mon 19-Aug-24 22:18:40

I think that people should cut them some slack. It is hard to comprehend how so many people delve deeply into their every reported move/statement looking for things to criticize. I am at a loss to understand why.

They (like me - and all of us) are not perfect - that is a given. Why is it necessary to compound the known cruelties of the media by buying into it all and adding to it? What is it about?

Would people be equally cruel to those they know?

Mollygo Mon 19-Aug-24 22:36:30

I think we should cut them some slack . . .
The problem is, whether I comment favourably, unfavourably or however else I post about them, I am contributing to the discussion about two people I have never met.
So like everyone else I read what the media say and what those two say or write and then add my own POV.
The only way to cut them some slack is not to comment at all.

Anniebach Mon 19-Aug-24 23:03:58

They want to be celebrities, celebrities want and need the public talking about them.

M0nica Tue 20-Aug-24 08:25:22

But Mollygo, they want you to be talking about them, providing you are saying what they want you to say.

Mollygo Tue 20-Aug-24 08:35:18

M0nica

But Mollygo, they want you to be talking about them, providing you are saying what they want you to say.

🤣🤣🤣
I must be such as disappointment to them then.