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Schofield Cast Away Channel 5

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Bea65 Tue 01-Oct-24 10:24:11

Viewed this but turned off … he’s so self indulgent..says it was an unwise decision but IMO it was an inappropriate decision and really feel for his wife and girls.. what do others think?

Bea65 Wed 02-Oct-24 13:05:56

Galaxy

Oh I am afraid that Joanna Lumley didnt surprise me at all. She holds a particular viewpoint that often centres the feelings of men.

Galaxy are you thinking of her (Joanna in Ab Fab.)..man eater 😊

Kate1949 Wed 02-Oct-24 13:07:12

Did he have to hide it Annie? Why?

Doodledog Wed 02-Oct-24 13:09:32

So you haven't seen the programme, you have barely watched PS, and presumably you haven't read the thread, but you feel able to accuse his detractors as witch-hunters?

Doodledog Wed 02-Oct-24 13:10:43

Doodledog

So you haven't seen the programme, you have barely watched PS, and presumably you haven't read the thread, but you feel able to accuse his detractors as witch-hunters?

Sorry - fast moving thread. That was to theworriedwell.

theworriedwell Wed 02-Oct-24 13:13:34

eggplant

I suppose part of the problem is he was pretending to be something he wasn't.

Wholesome family man, top banter with Fern and then Holly. All friends together.

The young guy would have been easily swayed by money, attention and the promise of a job as a runner.

Sad state of affairs really. No, I won't be watching.

Maybe Fern and Holly should be criticised for their hypocrisy?

theworriedwell Wed 02-Oct-24 13:15:16

Doodledog

Doodledog

So you haven't seen the programme, you have barely watched PS, and presumably you haven't read the thread, but you feel able to accuse his detractors as witch-hunters?

Sorry - fast moving thread. That was to theworriedwell.

I've seen the witch hunt, it's been on the internet and press for months.

I think the fact I haven't watched PS is a positive as so many seem all to keen to condemn him because they don't like him. I don't like or dislike him so my view is quite possibly more balanced.

Anniebach Wed 02-Oct-24 13:24:47

Quote theworriedwell Wed 02-Oct-24 13:13:34
eggplant
I suppose part of the problem is he was pretending to be something he wasn't.

Wholesome family man, top banter with Fern and then Holly. All friends together.

The young guy would have been easily swayed by money, attention and the promise of a job as a runner.

Sad state of affairs really. No, I won't be watching.

The young guy may have wanted the relationship in an attempt to further his career .
Why can a bisexual/homosexual not engage in banter ?
,
A family man yes, married with two daughters , you believe every one should publicly state their sexuality ?

MissInterpreted Wed 02-Oct-24 13:25:03

For someone who has never watched PS and 'hardly watches any TV', you seem to have awfully strong opinions on the subject, theworriedwell. Schofield repeatedly lied about the nature of his relationship with this young man, not to mention lying to his wife and family too. Doodledog has summed up the situation perfectly, in my opinion. And as for the 'people only have the power you give them', well that's a load of claptrap if I ever heard it.

Doodledog Wed 02-Oct-24 13:28:02

Thank you, MissI.

I couldn't care less about his sexuality, and his marital situation is none of my business, but the rest of the factors I mentioned are, IMO, more than enough to warrant ITV getting rid of him.

theworriedwell Wed 02-Oct-24 13:35:00

MissInterpreted

For someone who has never watched PS and 'hardly watches any TV', you seem to have awfully strong opinions on the subject, theworriedwell. Schofield repeatedly lied about the nature of his relationship with this young man, not to mention lying to his wife and family too. Doodledog has summed up the situation perfectly, in my opinion. And as for the 'people only have the power you give them', well that's a load of claptrap if I ever heard it.

Of course people only have the power you give them. If the young man didn't want whatever advantages professionally or money PS gave him he could have told him to leave him alone.

As I said I have no feelings about PS but I can certainly see some people are motivated by their dislike of PS. What does it matter if he was full of himself, would it be OK if someone they liked did exactly the same thing? As someone else has said with the fuss about the queue jumping how come HW gets far less criticism, they were doing the same thing.

If his wife and daughters are supportive, as has been said on here, all the faux sympathy for them seems very patronising. If people actually gave a damn about how they were feeling they could just be quiet and let the whole thing die. Not much fun in that though is there for the moral crusaders who have never done anything wrong.

I hate witch hunts and they always make me picture the "hunters" knitting round the guillotine. It isn't a pleasant picture so I will leave the frothers to it.

MissInterpreted Wed 02-Oct-24 13:49:40

That's not how grooming works though, is it?

QB21 Wed 02-Oct-24 13:52:30

If you watch it you will see him with his wife and girls whom all seem very supportive of the programme and still remain a very close family despite it all. In fact one of his daughters negotiated with Channel 5.

Doodledog Wed 02-Oct-24 14:05:58

A cynic might say that of course she did. She is his manager, and he is her meal ticket.

dogsmother Wed 02-Oct-24 14:36:32

Ugh, just that.
Certainly wouldn’t watch it.

sazz1 Wed 02-Oct-24 15:28:04

Firstly my opinion of Philip and Holly is they were brilliant presenters and far better than those we have now, who all talk over each other.
If a boss has an affair with a young secretary or junior they don't call it grooming and keep their job.
If a boss has a neighbour whose daughter wants a job and they put the young daughter forward for a job it's all ok. If the boss then has an affair with her nobody asks who they are sleeping with.
The casting couch has been around for years in movies.
I think it was the fact that it was a homosexual affair by a married man that ended Philips career. Also he gave evidence against his brother which made the headlines.
That's why they got rid of him it outshined the show.

heavenlyheath Wed 02-Oct-24 15:51:33

Just don't employ the man look how he has treated his family and used his tv stardom to avoid queing to see the Queen lying in State dispicable

Iam64 Wed 02-Oct-24 16:07:39

sazzl your summary of work based affairs is way out of date. Exploitative relationships/the casting couch are not accepted in law or bd decent people
Doodledog / cracking post

Smileless2012 Wed 02-Oct-24 16:21:06

Holly Willoughby also used her tv stardom to avoid queuing to see the Queen lying in State heavenlyheath, do you consider her behaviour despicable too?

Dianehillbilly1957 Wed 02-Oct-24 16:52:55

No way will I be watching this winging idiot. Sick of the run ups to the programme there more important things than this man, he's had his share of the limelight and blew it, obviously he's needing money! What about his poor family? I have no intention of listening to his ' poor me, me, me' let's have something or somebody more worthy please instead of this 💩 Sorry I'm not a heartless person but I'm just sick of winging has been celebrity's.

kiligran Wed 02-Oct-24 17:33:42

I can’t understand why anyone would waste even a second watching this narsisstic creep. Shame on C5 for giving him a platform to whine and moan and basically be very unpleasant.

Sparklefizz Wed 02-Oct-24 17:43:54

I just don't care one way or the other.

He is the family's meal ticket. None of us knows what goes on behind closed doors.

Rekarie Wed 02-Oct-24 17:46:57

Apparently he's worth 9 million. Of course that might not be true but there's a business involved.

I don't think he's doing this for the money.

Doodledog Wed 02-Oct-24 19:29:56

I will watch it (or more accurately half-watch it), partly as I feel as though I invested enough time in the story as it broke to want to see it through, and partly because I don't understand how people can decide that someone is a narcissistic creep, or a misunderstood victim whilst simultaneously refusing to watch anything they take part in grin.

I am interested in the relationship between celebrity/media/culture and politics/sociology, and stories like this one are part of that dynamic. The programme is very obviously biased, but watching it with that awareness is interesting, even if only as a study in self-delusion or narcissism. Also, I'm nosy and like a bit of celebrity gossip wink

Anniebach Wed 02-Oct-24 20:21:42

The man has been a television celebrity for years, is it not
natural that he misses this, ? he didn’t commit any crime.

Galaxy Wed 02-Oct-24 20:25:05

Annie, if I knew someone who at his age befriended a 15 year old and not much later had a relationship with them, I wouldnt have anything to do with them. And I will say that all of these arguments are exactly the same as was said when the first Hugh Edwards story broke.