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DD3 has left the idiot - what now - advice appreciated!

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kittylester Mon 14-Jul-14 11:16:46

Most of you will know about DD3 and her Idiot (or husband!). They have decided to call it a day and she has moved back in here, which we are happy with in the short term. They are in the process of clearing the house and I think we are going to rent a storage unit to put her furniture in.

He has offered her what we consider to be a paltry sum (less than half the rental they are paying on their current house) considering what he and she earned as directors of his company. She will cease to be a director so his income (assuming things stay the same) will effectively double. He is going to pay the tax, insurance and remaining lease on her car (It was a Christmas present confused so the lease ends in December)

She is accepting more or less what he offers and is keen not to make a fuss to maintain 'good' relations with him for the children (he said he would have the children for a couple of hours yesterday but didn't as he'd been to a stag night and felt ill!!!!)

She has agreed to go to the CAB for advice and DH is thinking of going to see a solicitor so we have some knowledge.

Can anyone offer any insight into what is reasonable for her to expect and what benefits etc she might get. She is reluctant to go to the CSA.

I'd like him to pay very dearly for the distress he is causing DD and two of my DGC and, therefore, the distress, mess and hurting eardrums that DH and I are suffering. I realise that is not quantifiable and we will all be fine in the long run but my blood boils when I consider him with just the blinking cat to look after. angry

Sorry for this long post but we are in the dark about this sort of thing and you were all so supportive last time I asked for help regarding the idiot!!

Deedaa Mon 14-Jul-14 22:34:47

Good legal advice is a must! We had a friend who left her husband and left him in possession of their council house because she "didn't want to cause any trouble!" The council rehoused her in a totally unsuitable flat and she ended up trailing round the country with her daughter moving in and out of friends' houses. It may not have caused her ex husband any trouble but was a nightmare for her and her daughter for years.

annodomini Mon 14-Jul-14 23:45:53

She should have a look at this site for a start and make a list of priorities. She should also go to the CAB and discuss her options but it is necessary to see a solicitor because if he has one and she hasn't, he will get away with far more than he deserves. She mustn't let him think he can trample all over her. Legal aid is still available if she can prove abuse which can include psychological and emotional abuse. Sounds as if she might have a case. Good luck to her and her children - and you, of course, kitty.

annodomini Tue 15-Jul-14 00:25:46

PS Legal aid is, apparently, available for the mediation process. She should have representation for that because he will have. She needs a good settlement not just for her own sake but especially for the children.

Faye Tue 15-Jul-14 00:34:38

It seems to me he would be obliged to pay a substantial amount of his large income towards his very young children's upkeep. I would expect your daughter at the very least to be bought out of the company, they are after all married, giving your daughter some financial security for her children's future.

I can't see any sense in your daughter staying in their rented house, she would have to find the rent. So after December when the lease runs out does that mean your daughter ends up without her own car?

I see you and your husband as having to fight for your daughter's rights kitty but it will be well worth it in the end. She would feel worse when she sees him with a new partner living it up while she struggles bringing up their two children. Doesn't sound like he is going to pull his weight where they are concerned. Best of luck. flowers

rubylady Tue 15-Jul-14 00:37:42

I can only reiterate what others have said.

Please help to get her some good legal advice. Although I thought so at the time, my solicitor wasn't much good and she let me get stung for thousands and my children too. Your DD needs to stop agreeing to whatever he wants, he will take her to the cleaners otherwise and to put her and her children's needs first. I know this is difficult at this time. You feel in a sort of limbo and a dream and as if it's all not real. Go with her to any appointment, take a note pad, jot down what they say. Do what you can for the day and then put it to bed, so to speak, and help each other relax.

Get any child care arrangements in an order or a contract. He cannot just say he is not having them after making arrangements. If he is doing this now what will he be like in years to come. Get it legalised. My son is currently having counselling because his father abandoned him at 8 years old, he is now 17 and it still hurts him deeply.

As for the CSA, I know that for one child it is 15% of the man's wage. For two children it is 20%. I don't know what it is above this for more children.

My ex asked me to sign our marital home over to him in exchange for all our debts. I agreed. (I moved into council as he was violent). We got to court, his solicitor said the house was in negative equity, more or less made me sign the house over and then only agreed to pay debts in joint names. My personal debts were handed back to me. He sold the house two months later at a profit of £60,000. So I missed out on £30,000 and my debts being paid. How someone could be like this when you have shared a life and had children is beyond me. This was in 2001.

Take care of yourself Kitty we are all here for you, anytime.
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HollyDaze Tue 15-Jul-14 17:56:23

When you say she will cease to be a director of their company, there will surely be legalities to go through and an entitlement to some recompense?

If he is the sole shareholder or there are shareholders (and kitty's daughter isn't one) holding above a certain percentage of the company shares (not sure what that percentage would be for the UK), they can vote to dismiss her as a director without any input from her and no, there is no need for recompense on that front.