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Supernatural experiences - do you believe?

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Tedber Fri 29-Nov-19 19:43:51

A post by someone else sparked me thinking. Who believes? Who thinks they have had supernatural experiences and are mediums genuine or con artists?

I am not even sure what I believe. but....

When my first husband died I was away and I awoke in a room to a rustling sound in the corner of the room in hotel. I woke up and switched on the light, saw it was 4 a.m. and my immediate thought was its ok "It is the ghosts"..... Er? not one for being irrational, but I shook myself and said to myself "ghosts" WTF are you talking about.? There was absolutely nothing in the corner of the room. Not a chair, bag, zilch.... Went back to sleep and was phoned later the next day to say my husband had been found dead and ....later again found out estimated time of death was 4 a.m.! I then returned home to Scotland and that night I got a phone call on my mobile it was from a LANDLINE number in the town I was in - I went to pick it up but it disconnected.... the time was 4 a.m.! I even wrote it down in case I lost it. I phoned it back and a woman answered sleepily, she sounded old and categorically told me I had woken her and she had NOT phoned anyone. She told me she lived alone and didn't know me or my husband! I believed her!

Now what are the chances of someone in the same area you are in picking a random mobile phone number anyway???

Some years later (when we had moved to England) my daughter and I went to a spiritualist church - more out of curiosity than anything. Totally speechless when the guy pointed to us and told us he had someone there who was showing matches and cards? sounds odd ..yeah? except my daughter and her dad always played crib with matches!!! He also mentioned the name of the town we lived in! Seriously, it is not any common town in Scotland, but could be a first name!

He said a lot more and we couldn't say a word ...just totally mesmerised.

Has anyone else experienced anything similar or is it just nonsense?

Lizzle10 Sat 30-Nov-19 09:41:26

I totally believe in spirits and mediums I’ve had some very real experiences too long winded to mention and I also visited a medium a year or so ago after my mum passed . She told me stuff no one else could know and I found it very comforting .

Grandmajanet55 Sat 30-Nov-19 09:44:47

I've had no experience on life after, but believe that our bodies are just a vessel that carries our souls and when we die our souls leave, and we go to another dimension.

crazyH Sat 30-Nov-19 09:46:07

Yes I do believe in the after life and ghosts - I have experienced the presence of my mother, when I needed her most.

Alexa Sat 30-Nov-19 09:46:29

You cantchoosethem, I had an experience of that 'glow'. I assume you meant an physical sensation of warmth.

Mine was during a visit to a reflexologist in an effort to try to relax the muscles of my upper torso. I had no expectation she was a 'healer'. Immediately after the experience with the reflexologist I had a great surge of energy, had a gin and tonic in a country house pub, then hired a horse and went for a ride on the hill.

polnan Sat 30-Nov-19 09:47:09

I am with you Endlessstrife.

though, again, I have had a few experiences, not seeing the physical form, how can we? with cremations?

but maybe there is something, but we have to be careful

Witzend Sat 30-Nov-19 09:47:10

I agree with tickingbird that genuine mediums - the few - often don't charge. A younger relative who was experiencing something very odd in an old property they'd recently moved to - their dog refused absolutely to set foot (paw) in a certain part of the house - had someone she knew slightly come and find out why - a sad story - and resolve the situation. She didn't charge.

After that the dog was perfectly happy to enter that area. Might add that none of the family had sensed anything at all amiss - it was only the dog.
I dare say someone will still say the dog had imagined it!

Alexa Sat 30-Nov-19 09:49:12

but believe that our bodies are just a vessel that carries our souls and when we die our souls leave, and we go to another dimension.

The problem with that belief is how, during life, our body and our soul can be of one mind.

lovebeigecardigans1955 Sat 30-Nov-19 09:50:56

I sort of believe and have an open mind as some things can't be explained with logic.
I dreamed about Mum passing away and woke feeling very disturbed and shaken - I couldn't get back to sleep as it was so vivid. I rarely dream.
Next day Mum went to hospital as she 'felt strange' and died two days later. More than coincidence?
I saw a medium a few months ago who felt a very strong aura around me. She said I could develop it if I wished. I shuffled some Tarot cards and she came up with my husband's name, thoroughly spot on with so many correct details which was uncanny. She absolutely 'got me.'
I felt encouraged to go to a spiritualist church but I don't feel comfortable with the public aspect of an audience, as in, "the lady in the blue blouse, I can sense Uncle Tom" etc - I prefer one-to-one meetings but they're expensive.
Reading that back makes me sound daft and gullible but I think there are genuine psychics who are uncannily correct when they are given no 'signals' to point them in the right direction. Sadly there are charlatans too. Only personal recommendation can put you in touch with the good ones.

Paperbackwriter Sat 30-Nov-19 09:54:33

My best friend David died this week in the early hours of Tuesday morning. It wasn't particularly unexpected but pretty shattering. I always get up in the night to go to the loo at about 4.30-5 am. On Tuesday morning it was 3 am and as I was opening the loo door I immediately had the thought in my head, oh - David's gone. Later that morning his wife called me to tell me he'd died - it was at the moment I'd had my thought. I'm not saying it was anything more than a coincidence but it's a strange comfort - I really felt he was saying goodbye.

Bijou Sat 30-Nov-19 09:56:34

One night I had a dream about a policeman searching through a black handbag. The next morning a policeman came to tell me that my daughter had been found dead. Later when sorting through her effects I found a black handbag the same as I had in my dream. I had never seen that bag before.

harrigran Sat 30-Nov-19 09:56:52

The human body is just a mass of chemical and electrical reactions, when you die it is like switching off the electricity, it doesn't go floating off into the ether.
All paranormal activity is instigated in the brain of the person who experiences it, read into that what you will.
People hear what they want to hear when visiting mediums, if the dead really could communicate don't you think this world would be completely different ?

Want2Help Sat 30-Nov-19 09:59:52

Yes Endlessstrife I agree!

As a young woman I became involved in spiritism via a friend (using a ouija board). Thinking the dead were in heaven, communicating with us here on earth.

Strange things began to happen, information truly only I could know and although at the time I believed it was OK, it was only some years later after studying the Bible I realised what I'd been meddling with and how dangerous it had been!

We humans are very curious creatures and can easily get caught up in the supernatural (hence the surge of TV programmes such as ghost hunters etc).

For our own good we are warned against getting involved in such things*

Don't be fooled please, be aware you'll be communicating with demonic forces - who are powerful and in complete opposition to God.

*Deuteronomy 18:11&12

Sulis Sat 30-Nov-19 10:04:51

I have had loads of supernatural experiences. As an adopted child, on finding my natural mother, I told her of my psychic experiences, supernatural experiences, and death premonitions. She told me I had inherited it from my grandmother, although she herself was terrified of it. I am not frightened of it but you can't switch it off when it grabs you. Most recent one was yesterday's incident on London Bridge which I "knew" had happened before I put on the TV for the news early afternoon. Shame I hadn't seen it before when I could have warned the police.

Alexa Sat 30-Nov-19 10:06:42

Witzend, it may safely be believed dogs don't imagine things or tell lies. I'd always believe a dog telling me something was sincere with powers of smelling far beyond mine. So your dog story is interesting. However the dog's being spooked at one time and not another time was probably due to a mundane cause.

There could have been an intruder other than a spooky one. Maybe the dog was afraid of rats, and cessation of rat activity coincided with the visit of the friend. I met a man this week whose Jack Russell is afraid of rats.

ananimous Sat 30-Nov-19 10:24:41

With all of our tech it's funny wink how even the most usually obliging ghosts are never recorded. Our brains look for patterns in everything from clouds to burnt toast. Some people are more "creative" than others. I think it's similar to kids believing in fairies and santa claus. If it brings comfort to them, and they don't force it onto me, I'm okay with mystic, bone-shakers.

4allweknow Sat 30-Nov-19 10:26:44

Definitely the 'fortune teller' experience. Not long married and had a family gathering with a f.t. When my turn came she handed me the crystal ball and my hands began to actually drip moisture. When I handed it back to her she immediately told me I would have 3 children but two would be born very very close to another. Scared the life out of me with the 3 children never mind the very close bit. 4 years later had my DD and two years later twin DS. That was the two close together bit. 30 years later at a works 'do' fortune teller told me I would have 2 wedding rings. That did scare me as husband had had cancer a few years earlier. Also gave in insight to my husband in that he would tackle any kind of diy but would not touch carpet fitting. This was so true. As to the wedding ring, for that Christmas 5 weeks later my husband had arranged for a new ring to be made as my lst one had worn so thin I didn't wear it with my engagement ring. Weird. But no ghosts!

Fernbergien Sat 30-Nov-19 10:34:19

Many years ago we were at a party and most people were a bit tiddly . A lot of people had drifted off when someone got out a ouija board. I wasn’t happy. Said be quiet said a little prayer and spoke. Who is there? Rabjack. My fathers knickname!!! Then it said Mark ( son) had won a prize. True. My father was a twin and they had been known as Rabbi and Rabjack. I was sitting all the time several feet from where they were messing around. I have had other experiences. I keep an open mind.

endlessstrife Sat 30-Nov-19 10:35:32

Thank you want2help and polnan, I know it can sound crazy to a non believer, but if you think about it, so should ghosts and mediums. As Christians, we know spirits are real, because we experience the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is part of God. Equally, bad spirits are from Satan, and it is these who dupe people into believing they see / hear etc. their dead loved ones. Satan is working hard to keep as many people away from finding God as he can. He doesn’t want people to be saved.

BladeAnnie Sat 30-Nov-19 10:36:41

I live in a building that is hundreds of years old and I definitely feel a presence in part of the house - I often smell an old fashioned floral perfume, something has pushed past me when I've been alone in the house and a heavy wooden sliding door has been opened seemingly on its own. I have always been a believer but had never experienced anything until we moved here. I have to say that I never feel afraid but friends often say they could not be alone in my house

jaylucy Sat 30-Nov-19 10:42:02

I lived with both of my parents until their death and after my mother died unexpectedly, I was also my dads carer when I wasn't at work for several years.
Several weeks after my dad died, I was sitting having a cup of tea one Sunday when I could suddenly smell something - dad had always used a particular brand of soap and deodorant every day and the smell of it was wafting down the stairs at the time that he used to go and have a wash and shave - no one else used that same soap etc and no one else was in the house at the time. I have smelt the same smell several times since.
Our stairs creak, but because dad needed to lean on the bannister so they used to creak differently for him! Several times, I have heard the same sound as if he's still coming downstairs. I just find it comforting .

squirrel5 Sat 30-Nov-19 10:43:01

I once went with a friend,for curiosities sake,to a psychic fayre,and as we were wandering round,a medium called to me and said my father was over her shoulder,and she gave me his full name,even his unusual middle name...it is a made up name,so uncommon.I was amazed how she knew that,no explanation !!

Witzend Sat 30-Nov-19 10:43:40

Harrigran, do you think the dog I mentioned above, had imagined whatever it was that made it refuse to enter part of the house? If so, how do you explain that it was quite happy to do so after the medium had visited?

However intelligent they may be be, I'm not sure any dog is suggestible to that extent.
As I said, none of the family had sensed anything, and so as not to worry or frighten them, the children were never told of any of it until they were much older, so I can't think the dog was picking up vibes.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 30-Nov-19 10:45:40

As a humanist I don’t believe any of this. In fact I know it doesn’t exist, because no one has ever been able to prove it does.

It is entirely irrational to believe something exists if it can’t be prove.

grandtanteJE65 Sat 30-Nov-19 10:47:39

I was brought up to believe that fortune-telling and seances were wrong, so I still tend to steer clear of mediums and fortune-tellers.

However, I have had experiences that could be called seeing ghosts. I lived for years in a flat that had the ghost of a small black cat. People I had never mentioned it to, have seen it, so I don't think it can be thought transference.

The day I visited my sister for what I was fairly certain would be the last time, as she was dying of brain cancer, I distinctly felt our mother, who had been dead for seven years at that time, standing behind me in the hospital. I didn't turn round, so I don't' know if she could be seen.

It may just have been our need for her that caused me to feel her presence, of course. My paternal grandfather appeared in my sister''s bedroom, waking her, the night before our father (his eldest son) died. My sister had been so small when grandpa died, that she didn't recognise him, but when she told me, I knew who it must have been.

Once or twice I have felt my sister behind me in the street -- nonsense? wishful thinking? Perhaps, after all she died nearly four years ago.

Fiachna50 Sat 30-Nov-19 10:53:58

I do think there is something. I don't mess about with ouija as I firmly believe that opens doors to stuff you really don't want to know about. I'd keep well away from that. I have had experiences throughout my life from childhood that I cannot explain. Re Mediums, Ive known two very genuine ones, but I prefer to let the dead rest. Like another poster, although I believe , it's not something I ever want to get overly involved in.