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Jane10 Sun 05-Apr-20 08:24:25

Just read that Catherine Calderwood the Scottish chief medical officer and her family drove to their holiday home in Fife for the weekend.
Apparently it was just to check on the security of the place. Hmmmm.
The only way to resolve that PR disaster would be for her to be charged and fined heavily for making an unnecessary journey just as one of us would have been.

twinnytwin Sun 05-Apr-20 10:55:05

It's reported that Carrie is back with Boris in flat now.

Shelmiss Sun 05-Apr-20 10:55:43

Yes she is a public servant but she is also someone who stands on a podium on television telling the rest of us to stay inside. And doesn’t do the same thing herself. This makes me so angry!!

SirChenjin Sun 05-Apr-20 10:59:36

She has a political role Granny. I’m amazed that anyone is attempting to defend her behaviour - she’s effectively stuck two fingers up at the Govt, the police, NHSS and the Scottish public.

Baggs Sun 05-Apr-20 11:19:53

Not really the point though Baggs about the risk to others

Yes, I know. But it is still a valid point so why shouldn't I mention it?

Baggs Sun 05-Apr-20 11:23:07

eglantine describes the main point (not my point) well when she refers to the "if she does why shouldn't we?" attitude. The main point is giving a good example to others. That does not invalidate other points.

dragonfly46 Sun 05-Apr-20 11:31:51

If driving to a holiday home to check security is okay then it should be okay for my DD to drive here, pick up her dog who she hasn’t seen since February and drive straight home! If she did, however, she would be stopped and fined!

Callistemon Sun 05-Apr-20 11:32:17

Granny23 I didn't suggest sacking her

However, if she has any moral compass, she will do the right thing and offer her resignation.

It is no good instigating rules for the good of all, expecting the plebeians to adhere to them and flouting them yourself.

paddyanne Sun 05-Apr-20 11:32:58

Granny 23 I have no idea if Cath is a member of the SNP ,I only know her from her TV appearances.IF she is she should know that anything she does wrong will be escalated in the media.Its what they do and she should have been aware that SNP bad is the order of not just today but EVERY day in the msm .
For that reason alone she should have stayed put at home.To flout rules she's asking others to follow is unacceptable.I;m a huge fan of Nicola and I hope she deals with this openly and makes sure people dont flock to their holiday homes just because they think If she can do it why cant we .

Eglantine21 Sun 05-Apr-20 11:35:57

She certainly can’t do any more appearances where she exhorts us all to Stay at Home, Save lives.

Behind the scenes she can probably still do valuable work.

Or maybe not, if she can’t take in a simple principle....

Callistemon Sun 05-Apr-20 11:36:09

No-one is irreplaceable, Granny23.

janipat Sun 05-Apr-20 11:36:17

The only point is she thinks she and her family are special and don't need to obey the rules like everybody else. They didn't just drive to the house and stay inside (even that is flouting the rules) they went on a lovely family walk on a golf course. Not a thought they'd be held accountable. Then to read the defence of her that she's been working seven days a week, well so have thousands and thousands of others. Can they now flout the rules with impunity?

Callistemon Sun 05-Apr-20 11:37:45

Or, janipat, she has no common sense whatsoever.
Which is rather worrying.

SirChenjin Sun 05-Apr-20 11:41:37

The SG appear to be defending it which is hugely concerning:

A Scottish government spokesman said on Saturday: “Since the start of this epidemic, the CMO has been working seven days a week preparing Scotland’s response.
“She took the opportunity this weekend to check on a family home in Fife as she knows she will not be back again until the crisis is over. She stayed overnight before returning to Edinburgh.
“In line with guidance, she stayed within her own household group and observed social distancing with anyone she was in passing in the village.”

So what is it - we can travel to our second homes and observed social distancing with anyone she was in passing in the village.”

I’m confused - the Scottish public can make non essential journeys? They can visit their second homes? If they’re working 7 days a week then they can pretty much do as they want? It’s OK to visit other towns and villages but only if you keep 2m away from the locals?

SirChenjin Sun 05-Apr-20 11:42:22

Ignore that 3rd paragraph

Hetty58 Sun 05-Apr-20 11:47:23

Baggs, the risk to others is always there. We know that people are most infectious before they get any symptoms (if they get symptoms at all).

Moving to another area and then perhaps going out, exercising, shopping locally etc. runs the risk of bringing infection to that community.

I feel it's so important to lead by example. How can we ever respect those who bend the rules?

Callistemon Sun 05-Apr-20 11:51:29

If you're working 7 days a week there wouldn't be time to go off to your holiday home with the family and go for a nice long walk.

janipat Sun 05-Apr-20 11:51:42

Or another even more worrying interpretation could be that people like her who spout the rules for others, but fail to keep them themselves, actually don't believe they're necessary or effective. If she does believe they are critical to beating this virus why would she flout them?

JenniferEccles Sun 05-Apr-20 11:52:29

We would love to go and check on our holiday home in the West Country, especially during this lovely weather but we are observing the rules and staying away.

It will be interesting to see what happens to this woman.

My guess is she will issue an apology, saying on reflection it was ill-judged and that will be the end of it.

Marmight Sun 05-Apr-20 11:54:59

My SiLs 19 year old son is stuck alone in his student flat, his med student flatmates being ‘elsewhere’. SiL is more than concerned about his welfare, particularly mental & would love to go & fetch him. He can’t. End of....

Parsley3 Sun 05-Apr-20 11:55:27

Catherine Calderwood has been the face of the stay home, save lives message for weeks now.
And yet she flouts the message in a particularly stupid way. Her actions are indefensible and highly embarrassing to to the Scottish government. Who is going to listen to her now?
She has lost my respect.

SirChenjin Sun 05-Apr-20 12:03:15

And here we are - the ‘sorry I got caught’ apology from Dr Calderwood angry

“While there are reasons for what I did, they do not justify it and they were not legitimate reasons to be out of my home."

“While I and my family followed the guidance on social distancing at all times, I understand that I did not follow the advice I am giving to others, and I am truly sorry for that."

SirChenjin Sun 05-Apr-20 12:05:30

Cont’d

"I know how important this advice is and I do not want my mistake to distract from that.
"I have a job to do as chief medical officer to provide advice to ministers on the path of this virus and to support the medical profession as they work night and day to save lives, and having spoken with the first minister this morning I will continue to focus entirely on that job."

So - an ‘as you were, Catherine’ from the SG basically. It beggars belief.

SpringyChicken Sun 05-Apr-20 12:05:38

She has to be fined at the very least. Otherwise, how can police fine anyone else for flouting the instructions?

MissAdventure Sun 05-Apr-20 12:06:52

Oh well, that's alright then, eh?
angry

eazybee Sun 05-Apr-20 12:09:49

The question rattling round in my brain is "who was spying on her? and why

I would imagine every single person connected with government, and their families, is being spied on, the reason being that information about them, particularly their misdeeds, can be sold to the media.
The public conscience?
That said, what a fool.