What EP's need to hear from a fellow Estranged Parent.

Other EP's are my source HolyHannah; their experiences.

Whether you agree with me or not is immaterial, it doesn't alter what some have experienced.

Am wrong sometimes Smileless2012, it's OK to be wrong sometimes x

Of course it's OK to be wrong Yennifer, we're all wrong sometimes but that doesn't mean we have to say we are when we're not.

Sorry I've got no idea what you are talking about Smileless2012. Not anything hidden in my words. Am. OK with being wrong and admitting it. Not able to speak for anyone else anyway so take your issues up with them. Only you and Starblaze getting deleted, not the rest of us. Just want to let it go thanks. Its Saturday and I'm working, trying to source things we need at school. Won't be getting any of my usual holiday. Don't want my breaks to be filled with animosity or pointless arguing. Take care x

Smileless -- "Other EP's are my source HolyHannah; their experiences."

So you are saying that other EP's say that children have estranged because they didn't get a pony and that is your 'proof'?

Real proof is finding an EAC who says that's why they estranged and not more dysfunctional ramblings of other EP's.

You can't find EAC who did so because they didn't get a pony because they are as rare as the lady who wrote the article if they exist at all.

I always wanted a pony and never had one

That is outrageous. Truly outrageous.

I don’t think anyone actually believes someone would cut their parents out of their lives for something like this. Any sane person can see the absurdity of that statement.

All I ever read on the estrangement threads is that parents have no idea why they have been cut off. And if they do know why they have been cut off, it is always for made up reasons like this one.

Zero self reflection at all.

No ability to take any responsibility.

Outrageous!

Well I'm in a tough position really Smileless2012 because I saw you send the flowers and the lovely supportive comments to people right after they were nasty to me

Yep. I seen that too.

And nasty isn’t even the correct word. Yogagirl’s comments about carrots were pure vile. It was a shocking post to read. That post was the definition of abusive.

Always tell my friends if they are out of order. Not going to clap them on if they randomly punch someone in the face for no reason so why would I do it for them being verbally abusive and hurting someone that way? Saying that I'm not friends with that type of person x

Saying that I'm not friends with that type of person

Absolutely!

Once you cut one toxic person out of your life, the rest follow.

Motherofdragons -- If an EP says the Earth is flat, it now is. Because they say EAC do so for failure to get a pony that is now 'fact'. Absurd is not quite a strong enough word.

What is shocking is that beyond lack of reflection the idea/belief that what they say becomes 'fact' when they can't find an example to prove their 'fact'. It's, "My word and the word of other EP's is 'enough'. Why wont YOU believe Us???"

The answer is because I am an EAC and I've met plenty. I've never met one that says they estranged over which private school they did or did not go to, a pony or anything so ridiculous.

There is a lot of narcissists out there right now, cut off from their scapegoats or other means of gaining attention except the internet. Watch them become viler and viler and play bigger and bigger victim while the pandemic has the rest of us trying to look out for each other. They may as well be a different breed of human entirely.

Also my comments were deleted simply for speaking of other posts. Not due to breaking any other rule. I always forget that rule.

I wasn't suggesting there was anything hidden in your words Yennifer. One way to avoid arguments and pointless arguments is stop reading into other people's posts thing that aren't there.

Only one EAC that I'm aware of, told their parent about not having a pony HolyHannah; could well have been the only
one, who can say.

It's true that once you're free of a toxic person in your life, the rest follow and sadly, also that those you love, who've been unduly influenced by that toxic person, leave your life too.

I read the posts in a group of over 8 thousand ACs who have problems with their mothers, some estranged and some not. None ever mention anything so trivial x

Yennifer -- EP's make up reasons that their children have estranged and then they support each others stories. The reasons EP's THINK their children have estranged over are not FACTUALLY the reasons... If EP's were correct, they would be able to find corresponding EAC who say what they are saying.

Smileless told us. Her only 'proof' that EAC do so over something as absurd as not getting a pony are EP's.

If you looked at some sites for EP's I'm sure like me you'd be shocked at some of the trivial reasons given for estrangement.

It's extremely unlikely if not impossible that any EAC would admit to estranging their parent(s) for something so trivial or for many of the trivial reasons mentioned, but it happens whether you chose to believe it or not. It makes no difference to me.

Smileless -- Yes. Because I'm an EAC I am going to believe my reality and the reality of most EAC children -- That we came from dysfunctional/abusive families.

I am not going to be gaslighted by anyone who says, "You had a wonderful childhood! You selfish, narcissistic brat! How dare you!?!? Is this because I didn't get you a pony when you were ten???"

"Yeah... This is about me not getting a pony at age 10." -- which is all sarcasm and comes with a free eye-roll.

My mother still believes her reasons for estrangement even tho I told her all of mine and she has them in writing lol x

I had no idea how fixated some of you would be about pony's!!

I also referred to an EAC complaining how they'd not gone to boarding school even though they wanted too, and another who complained they had gone to boarding school even though it was unavoidable.

I hope you've all enjoyed Mother's day as I have.

I had no idea so many would get fixated about carrots! lol x funny eh

That was just one story of many though x

Actually just a thought. If people latched on to that as my reason for estrangement. Maybe the same happens with no pony or boarding school. One reason of many is smaller but that's all that gets focused on x

You have to admit the carrot thing was funny .. I mean .. having had a similar moment with my own parents .. I can relate- It was lentils- Lentil soup- Hated it- They were like you're gonna eat it - I ate half- Then puked- It looked the same coming out as it did before I ate it!!! Probably why I didn't want it hahahah

That taught them lol ..