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Anxious...I would appreciate your thoughts

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BerthaT Sun 26-Jun-22 10:48:17

I have 3 lovely daughters, and I am lucky we have always enjoyed a happy and close relationship.
A few weeks ago I invited my youngest daughter to do a 10 mile charity walk with me to raise funds for a cause dear to my heart and we completed the walk yesterday. However At the start of the walk it was clear to me that she was not up to it, as she had suffered a knee injury some weeks previously and it was causing her a problem that morning. I tried to put her off and said the rest of our group would do the walk in her honour, and said she should drive to the finish point and meet us there in approx 4 hours. She refused to stand down and after the first 3 miles was clearly in difficulty. Nonetheless she powered through to the end(we took it as gently as we could). She was very chatty with the rest of the group but everytime I asked how she was doing she was very short with me.
During the ride home and said I would pop over today to see how she is (her husband is away for work until next week). She very sternly told me that was unnecessary and she would be fine. I mentioned it again as I dropped her off and again she said she didn't want me to drop by. I am concerned so I have asked her best friend to look in on her today. So I know she will be okay.
Now here's the thing, I am, quite selfishly I realise, anxious why she doesn't want my company, as she has seemed distant of late.
I have a dear friend who is estranged from her daughter and feel the anguish it causes her. I am not an emotionally strong person and getting quite anxious now.

Summerlove Sun 26-Jun-22 14:18:28

BerthaT

I also consider it just fine to show my concern at the beginning as I did not want her to feel obliged to do the walk just because I had asked her to do it with me. Clearly what stands out to me here is that I should not show concern.
Tho I do take the point to back off.

This could be the problem you consider it fine to do something, without taking her pretty bold hints that she does not.

Please back off a little, trust your daughter.

I’d be very annoyed at my mother if she had acted as you had. Sneaking around and sending her friend over is just beyond the pale.

Apologise, give her space, move on.

BerthaT Sun 26-Jun-22 14:22:29

The best friend just called me to say my daughter has just called her to ask her to drop by......daughter didn't even know I had asked said friend to check in.....and yes. I am hurt that she didn't want me but more than that, anxious why. I think that's normal, though I'm m sure now you'll tell me otherwise ?

MissAdventure Sun 26-Jun-22 14:28:27

I'm sure it will be fine.
Sometimes people just need a bit of space, particularly if they're in pain.
Try not to worry, but also not to bring up the anxiety side of things, perhaps? flowers

Doodledog Sun 26-Jun-22 14:30:08

It really doesn't matter what is 'normal' for us - it's what your daughter wants that matters if you are concerned about your relationship with her.

She is an adult, (I assume?) so her views should be respected. It doesn't come across as though that is the case. It can be difficult to let go of the idea that we should still be the 'go to' people for our children, but as they grow up they grow away from us in some ways, and we have to let them.

We don't like to think of our children suffering, but with something like a knee there is nothing you can do to make it better (chicken soup isn't going to cure it grin), so apart from offering to help if and when you are asked to do so, the best thing you can do is nothing, I'm afraid.

DiamondLily Sun 26-Jun-22 14:32:17

I hate people keep "fussing" over me if I'm poorly or struggling.

I know what I can manage, and what I can't, and I get ratty if people try to tell me what I should be doing.

Perhaps she just wants a break from fussing and questions.

I'd back off a bit, send a chatty message in about a week's time, and see if she's ok then.?

BerthaT Sun 26-Jun-22 14:33:29

Oh and yes,as someone just pointed out in this thread I am making it all about me, that's why I posted ...because I am anxious.
? . Haven't been to see daughter. Haven't called etc etc.

crazyH Sun 26-Jun-22 14:36:15

BerthaT - I know you are hurt. So was, I when my daughter had an op to removed a growth on her thyroid and asked her brother to tell me not to visit her in hospital. I think I knew why or rather I hope I knew why - I’m an emotional person and would have been a total mess ……

MissAdventure Sun 26-Jun-22 14:40:41

Are you generally an anxious person?
It can be wearing for others so I've been told..
Someone I know came home from seeing his fiance to his dad raging, because his mum was anxious.
They ended up having a fight!"

The point was that his mums anxiety dominated their lives.

icanhandthemback Sun 26-Jun-22 14:44:46

BerthaT

Oh and yes,as someone just pointed out in this thread I am making it all about me, that's why I posted ...because I am anxious.
? . Haven't been to see daughter. Haven't called etc etc.

I am sure your concerns are well meaning. I am sure you want things to be good between your daughter. However, if you ask for advice on here, you will get it and it might not be what you want to hear. I might be totally wrong but it appears from your posts you want reassurance and no constructive criticism. That just doesn't happen on GN.
Of course, the best person to ask is your daughter but in view of your defensiveness, I hesitate to recommend that!

BerthaT Sun 26-Jun-22 14:50:01

Thank you, I see this.

Summerlove Sun 26-Jun-22 14:55:04

BerthaT

The best friend just called me to say my daughter has just called her to ask her to drop by......daughter didn't even know I had asked said friend to check in.....and yes. I am hurt that she didn't want me but more than that, anxious why. I think that's normal, though I'm m sure now you'll tell me otherwise ?

I feel badly for your daughter that her mother and best friend are discussing her behind her back

Nell8 Sun 26-Jun-22 15:10:53

BerthaT I'm sorry you're struggling with anxiety and don't feel emotionally strong.
It sounds like you are a very sensitive person. Are you allowing your close friend's relationship with her daughter to get under your skin? Perhaps you've spent too much time listening to her problems at your own expense and now it's spilling over into your life?

buffyfly9 Sun 26-Jun-22 15:26:42

As parents it seems to me that we can't really win ! I learned the hard way to back off, as others are urging you to do. When they want your help they will soon let you know! Having backed off for some time I now find I am criticised for doing just that. This morning my 48 year old daughter rang to tell me she was going to earn £600 doing some medic shifts at a festival. I said that's really nice. But apparently I didn't show the required level of excitement at this news and was accused of spoiling hers. As I said, you can't win, you just have to get on with your own life grin

Hithere Sun 26-Jun-22 16:22:42

OP

You are treating her like a child
You ask a question - don't like her answer, so you ask again, or do arrangements behind her back

You refuse to hear and respect her decisions because you prefer soothing your anxiety

Back off and give her space - stop projecting your fears of estrangement because you may make it true

Smileless2012 Sun 26-Jun-22 18:55:16

Something a lot of parents of AC experience buffyfly.

imaround Sun 26-Jun-22 21:34:17

I do not think it is unusual that the OP's daughter is not relying on her mother for support. When children become adults, they sometimes chose people other than their parents. Spouses, friends, etc.

Op; you tried to tell your daughter that she was not up for the walk. Something that you no longer get to decide. When she told you she was fine, you persisted. She told you not to check on her. You insisted. You then contacted her friend behind her back.

Is this normal behavior for you? Do you think that this type of behavior could lead your daughter to limit telling you anything personal about herself?

She is not responsible for managing your anxiety. There are professionals for that.

Your daughter is an adult and can make her own decisions about her life. Your relationship will improve greatly if you take that to heart and start treating her like the adult she is and find professional help for your anxiety.

Allsorts Tue 28-Jun-22 13:12:07

My goodness there are some very judgemental replies on here., mothers are automatically in the wrong whatever according to some. Bertha is over anxious and needs to step back , just for a while. I doubt her daughter would estrange her for something so petty, I know there’s a few that would, but they are just looking for excuses not reasons.

Caleo Tue 28-Jun-22 13:21:58

It's not "over anxious" when one adult offers help to another adult when one of them has to walk with a sore knee.

"Over- anxious" is relative to the amount and type of help offered. In any case it's hurtful and counterproductive to blame anyone.