Orlando Shootings

Another week another senseless murder spree in America. Doesn't matter what "hate" it came under the common denominator is semi automatic guns - the weapon of choice. Next week it'll be somewhere else, someone else's brother / sister / child.

Obama looked weary and resigned to the fact this probably won't be the last time he will give his speech before his term draws to a close as many Americans just don't care enough about people they don't know to actually say "no, enough is enough"

So the murders will continue (and likely increase if Trumpton gets in to th "White" house.

What is wrong with this world and some of the people in it? Needless, senseless violence.

Theresa May said seven UK terror plots had been disrupted in the last 18 months, all inspired by so-called Islamic State, with the overall threat level remaining at severe.

Yes, it's all very sad but there's this number of people, and more, killed every day in Syria, many of them children. That just seems to be accepted - certainly not this outpouring of grief for them. Children are dying every few minutes from malaria, dirty water and are hardly given a mention.

There is no need to change the Second Amendment (the right to bear arms) in order to control the sale of assault weapons which are, after all, military designed and never intended for domestic use. There is a rapidly growing organisation which supports gun control, formed, I think, after the shooting in Connecticut in 2012. While it does not yet rival the NRA in strength, finances and "friends in high places", it is becoming increasingly vocal and increasingly powerful.

It is interesting that someone can be put on a no-fly list because they are a suspected terrorist threat but they can still buy guns, including assault rifles.

This is a terrible tragedy, but if a country has the right to bear arms, as is the case in the US then it is inevitable that these atrocities will happen. My heart goes out to the families and friends of these young people.

I have a problem with the US gun law and I accept that the US because of it does suffer from violence , fact.

BUT and it's a big BUT what will be the excuse for an attack say in Manchester if and when a similar slaughter took place?. I believe it will be firstly the Police at fault, then our Security Services, then the Government, then on and on to Uncle Tom Cobley and all.

The perpetrator/perpetrators, if it were a 'clone case' of what happened in Orlando, would be a Muslim Extremist/Extremists with an inbred hatred and desire for the killing of homosexuals which is part of their ideology. They and they alone are the ones that are guilty and to me the blame stops there, full stop.

Obviously there will be a detailed investigation into this shooting but until there is an acceptance, an understanding this is in all probability not going to be an isolated case and no country is safe, whether weapons are easily available or not! and we accept the deprived , barbaric levels the Radical Islamists will go to we will never stop finding excuses for those who willfully undertook the slaughter of another human being for their brainwashed ideology.

As much as there is blame directed toward the US gun law and the call to stop selling guns, where are the shouts of blame calling for the Radical Muslim preachings to be banned/irradicated that are reaching millions of followers. Which is more dangerous?

I now have to declare that I fully accept that the Muslim religion and those of the Muslim faith are to my belief as innocent of any connection to my previous words and thoughts in the involvement of the Orlando Shootings as I am.

I'm reading that there's now suspicions that the shooter was gay himself and used to go to the club. I'm finding it all very befuddling

We're getting information in bits and pieces, unsurprisingly. It's being reported that the perpetrator had gay relationships, was on a gay dating app and had visited the club a number of times. It may be true and he wouldn't be the first gay man who had a 'secret' gay life. Despite the greater acceptance of gay/lesbian relationships, it remains difficult for Muslim people to be open if they are part of the LGBT community.

I did wonder whether that amount of hatred was covering up his fears about his own sexuality.

Hi wife says she drove him to the club on several previous occasions. Who knows whether he was secretly gay? It's all very odd.

Did anyone see a recent interview with a man in Belgium who wants euthanasia ( possible there) because he is Moslem and gay and can't stand the mental conflict?
That must be terrible. One turns it in and another turns it outwards?

Good speech here by Trevor Noah about America's head in the sand approach to gun regulation. Someone calls it "USA – where comedians talk more sense than politicians".

I could not see the video but I could hear it.

The problem with the gun laws is its not universal in all the states. It needs to be a federal law. The ban on assault weapons was up in 2004 and was not renewed. You also have the NRA lobbying certain people and giving money to their campaigns. Obama has been stopped virtually at every turn from what he proposes by the Republicans. Clinton wants more gun control laws and Trump wants to kick the Muslims out. Very different views.