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Another one bites the dust - Davis resigns

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crystaltipps Mon 09-Jul-18 05:23:54

Government resignations since autumn:
1 November 2017 - Fallon
8 November 2017 - Patel
20 December 2017 - Green
29 April 2018 - Rudd
8 January 2018 - Greening
8 July 2018 - Davis
There have been six resignations in 249 days. That’s one every six weeks

Just woken up to the news that the incompetent David Davis has resigned. Just as Brexit was all going so well? The useless Grayling should be next - how come he is still in post? Not to mention the awful foreign secretary. Interesting to watch develpments as the day wears on. The bookies and removal men will be busy.

Anniebach Mon 09-Jul-18 12:56:31

Very quiet, they have been for some time but they are just as divided

muffinthemoo Mon 09-Jul-18 13:20:41

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominic_Raab

His entry, complete with references to his legal issues and his published views, repays careful reading.

lemongrove Mon 09-Jul-18 15:11:04

I think it’s good that DD has resigned, I would like Boris to resign too, but doubt he has the principles of Davis.
I think though, what many Remainers forget is that Corbyn
Would go full steam ahead with Brexit ( whatever happens)
Both Parties are committed to leaving the EU.
I think Raab will be better as Brexit Secretary,
Lucky he has been on the Daily Politics many times, he certainly isn’t a pawn.

Bathsheba Mon 09-Jul-18 15:11:28

Now Boris has resigned! There won’t be a government left soon.

Pittcity Mon 09-Jul-18 15:12:10

Boris has gone!

gillybob Mon 09-Jul-18 15:12:40

I think maybe Boris has his eyes on the prize . Watch your back Teresa.

Grandad1943 Mon 09-Jul-18 15:13:49

Yes, Annie, I agree Labour has been very quiet on Brexit for some time. However, it is felt that there is a large cross-party majority in the Commons for a soft Brexit. Perhaps the PM believes she can use that cross-party majority to get her Brexit plan through.

That would necessitate talking to Labour and Liberal MPs. However, I have seen no definite confirmation of Labour party MPs attending Downing Street at the minute.

Much going on in the background I feel.

maryeliza54 Mon 09-Jul-18 15:17:27

What an absolute utter appalling shambles.

suzied Mon 09-Jul-18 15:24:00

I think if TM said from the outset - the result was very close, we'll go for as soft a Brexit as possible, most people would have said - fine, go ahead, a lot of remainers would have felt they weren't written off, and the Brextreemists would have been outnumbered. Instead she's tried to outkip the kippers with meaningless cliches. Where is strong and stable now?

varian Mon 09-Jul-18 15:28:12

It was quite bizarre to have a proven liar appointed as Foreign Secretary. I hope an honest replacement can be found.

Boris Johnson has embarrassed and discredited the UK. Surely no-one would ever again consider him suitable for any important job, let alone PM.

varian Mon 09-Jul-18 15:42:43

Liam Fox was emphatic in his speech in the City of London in February that a customs union “would be a complete sell-out of Britain’s national interests”. You might expect the secretary of state for negotiating trade treaties to be against a deal that would prevent the UK negotiating its own trade treaties.

It was not always thus. Six years ago, Fox was a backbench MP campaigning for Britain to leave the EU, having resigned as Defence Secretary for allowing his personal friend Adam Werritty to become involved in official government business.

Fox wrote an article for the Mail on Sunday in September 2012 setting out his vision for Brexit: he thought the “best way forward” would be an economic partnership “involving a customs union and a single market in goods and services”.

www.independent.co.uk/voices/liam-fox-speech-eu-customs-union-brexit-europe-trade-deal-a8230571.html

Has he achieved anything at all since he became the brexit trade deal chief????? -er, no. He should be the next to go.

Ginny42 Mon 09-Jul-18 19:34:35

Agree with varian above.

Good job they're 'strong and stable' eh, what would 'weak and shambolic' look like I wonder?

DD never once appeared to me to be in control of his brief. He was embarrassing at joint statement press briefings, looking anywhere but at the audience and not seeming to have grasped the importance of his role. He really should not have accepted the role in the first place, but to resign now after agreeing at Chequers tells us a lot about his character.

Likewise, BJ the showman who frequently embarrassed this nation with his inept quips has never appeared statesman like to me. No loss there then.

Please don't let this shambles be the pre-curser to removing TM and putting either of them in as caretaker.

Wonder what the talks in No 10 with Labour reps is about.

Anniebach Mon 09-Jul-18 19:40:50

The cameras have been in Downing Street all day, strange they didn’t catch a glimpse of just one Labour MP going into No 10

varian Mon 09-Jul-18 19:43:55

Lib Dem MPs will be calling on the government to extend Article 50 today. Extending Article 50 will ensure enough time is available to pass a law for, and then hold a vote on, the final say on the deal. Or if the government insist on pushing on with the negotiations, it will buy some more time for real talks to take place.

Iam64 Mon 09-Jul-18 20:08:44

What a shambles. I agree with those who say DDavies never felt to be on top of his role. Boris is totally untrustworthy, self seeking and has humiliated this country so many times in his role as FS. Let's hope any chance he might have had of Leadership have ben finally buried following his latest shenanigans.
I echo suzied's comments, that TM would have done far better to work on the basis of what we had, that is a fairly narrow vote in support of Leave. Having campaigned to Remain, she tried to placate her right wingers and as could have been predicted, failed.
Thank goodness for Gareth Southgate and his team. Team players, working hard and giving the country a bit of hope at last.

Anniebach Mon 09-Jul-18 20:19:21

Iam , it affects Wales as much as England

Grandad1943 Mon 09-Jul-18 20:41:46

Annie there are many entrances to 10 Downing Street for those who are told not to be seen. In that, many commentators are saying tonight that Theresa Mays meeting with Labour and Liberal MPs has been held.

In the above I feel is why she addressed the Conservative 1922 committee with such confidence and why JRM made the statement he did later in regard to the Tory party splitting.

Iam64 Mon 09-Jul-18 20:47:04

Annie, yes, Brexit affects Wales as much as England. I'm not sure the footie does though- no offence meant to Wales, Scotland or N Ireland.

Anniebach Mon 09-Jul-18 20:57:25

Labour MP’s sneaking through the back door and being told they must not be seen ? And it hasn’t been leaked !

Anniebach Mon 09-Jul-18 21:00:07

The other three countries need hope too Iam , no offence taken, just the usual reminder it is not all about England

MawBroon Mon 09-Jul-18 21:03:30

Seen on Twitter

The worry is that without David Davis Brexit negotiations could grind to a start

grin

Grandad1943 Mon 09-Jul-18 21:03:50

Iam64, yes it's only England that has taken these "British Isles" to the heights of the World Cup final stages (its coming home).

However, we have bequeathed one of England's finest players to show Wales how the beautiful game should be played as their head coach.

Perhaps in four years time they too will be alongside England (being the trophy holders) as qualifiers in Qatar.

muffinthemoo Mon 09-Jul-18 21:04:19

Am I the only one who thinks if JRM wants to set the entire policy and tone of the Conservative party, he should man up and run for the leadership?

It might be the echo of my old headmistress in my heart, but in all walks of life I absolutely cannot stand carping from the sidelines whilst refusing to try and take any responsibility to alter the course of events.

Grandad1943 Mon 09-Jul-18 21:07:49

In the above we have bequeathed Ryan Giggs to Wales as their head coach, one of England's finest.

I think he is English.....isn't he,?

Anniebach Mon 09-Jul-18 21:10:13

Grandad 1943, I don’t watch or care about football but even so I do know there is no British Isles team in the World Cup.