Anarchy in the UK? When politicians ignore the electorate.

Thanks GG but I would still like to know what that 92% comprises. As a figure on its own it doesn't tell us much. It would be more meaningful if we knew that was by volume or by number of companies whatever their size.

I think that Alison Pearson is forgetting that companies which do not directly export to or import from the EU may still be highly dependent on trade with the EU. For example, all the NE companies which make components for Nissan and the service industries which get their income from the people employed by both Nissan and the British companies which supply them. So that is a huge range of companies ranging from suppliers of consumer goods to the leisure industry.

When this source of income is removed from the economy what happens?

Well, we in the NE, and those in the former industrial heartlands devastated by Thatcher's destruction of industry, know what happens. People become very poor and resentful and subject to mental illness and myriad social evils.

That's why the Sunderland Leave vote completely floored me. Nissan was an absolute godsend to a very deprived area.

Nonnie forgive me that post should have read 92% of Companies do not import/export from /to EU.

I was posting without glasses on first thing (too lazy to go upstairs to get them)

Source as before- Allison Pearson, The Telegraph.

I'm a bit puzzled by this: ' only 92% ...import/export to Europe'

That actually sounds like most British companies. Is this a misprint?

GG sorry but As for a third of businesses considering relocating due to Brexit only 92% of British Companies currently import / export to Europe?Just another set of statistics being manipulated for the masses. is your post and my question related to it. Please could you respond to my question? Thanks

Nonnie that was addressed in my post of 10.37 this morning.

Petra that is it, in our large circle of friends built up over many years nobody is panicking about their businesses.

There is a million miles of difference between “doing” and “talking”

Yes please GG Where do you get that 92% from? Does it include tiny one person businesses? Is it a percentage of the value of UK businesses or the number of UK businesses?

Incidentally, what is happening in one business is hardly representative of the country. I am very happy for you.

Ah, but, Grannygravy your not an expert, are you. You don't write articles about trading/ pontificate on newsnight about trading.
No, you and your family just do it!!! and understand completely how it works, unlike the mouth pieces who've never negotiated a packet of fags.

Nonnie if you mean why do I not believe scare stories- We have a medium sized business which imports from Germany and several other EU Membee States as well as India, Japan and other non EU States!!!

NOT ONE OF OUR SUPPLIERS IN EU IS WORRIED about not delivering to us!!! NOT ONE OF OUR CUSTOMERS is worried about our ability to deliver to them.

As for the Education standard of our 2 Sales Managers and Office Managers 2 Degrees and 2 with over a handful of A levels.

Anything else you would like me to clarify Nonnie?

GG13 please answer the other question.

My friend who lives in a place which claims to have the highest number of Phds in the country said their area voted to leave! Perhaps that was down to the surrounding area?

On the upside EU has agreed visa free travel for all UK Citizens.

Nonnie, it came from Allison Pearson in The Telegraph.

Taken from the independent Factfinder organisation.

"According to YouGov, 68% of voters with a university degree wanted to remain in the EU, while 70% of voters with only GCSE qualifications or lower voted to leave. Those with A levels and no degree were evenly split.

These findings largely tally with the results of an Ipsos Mori survey published in September, and with polling conducted by Lord Ashcroft on the day of the referendum.

Of the 30 areas with the fewest graduates in the UK, 28 backed Brexit, according to the BBC. “By contrast, 29 out of the 30 areas with the most graduates voted Remain”, including the City of London, Belfast South, Cambridge, Oxford and Edinburgh, it adds."

Make of thst what you will.

GG13 what would it take to make you believe these things?

Where do you get that 92% from? Does it include tiny one person businesses? Is it a percentage of the value of UK businesses or the number of UK businesses?

As for a third of businesses considering relocating due to Brexit only 92% of British Companies currently import / export to Europe?Just another set of statistics being manipulated for the masses.

I have no idea whether the people in the North of England and South Wales are unintellegent and racist any more than any other area of the UK Annie. I wasn't referring to which way people voted. I was responding to another post explaining that if someone is unintelligent they cannot help it so should not be blamed, whatever they are being blamed for. On the opposite side I suggested that intelligent people can be blamed for whatever. That applies to people whichever way they voted!

So the people in the North of England and South Wales are unintellegent and racist ?

Some more reasons why we should be worried about Brexit:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47083214 Third of UK businesses considering moving abroad.

Also Japan has agreed a great trade deal with the EU in which the EU can sell their wines with no tariff and Japan will sell their cars to the EU with no tariff. Yes, they have said they will try to do a trade deal with the UK. Suggestions please for what we have to offer instead of our wine?

We live in a very polarised country, and Brexit has given some free rein to abuse others who do not agree with their point of view. A few enjoy the excitement of the fray but putting down others in a derogotary way just damages the cause which is being promoted. I have a great temptation to join in sometimes because I am quite politically active, but it doesn't change minds so is a waste of time.

POGS sorry, would you like me to give you the dictionary definition of unintelligent? People can't help being unintelligent which is why I don't blame them for not understanding some things. What on earth do you think is snobbish about that? It is not. I do find all this twisting of what people say very silly and it has the opposite effect from what you intend.

Please clarify where you think I ^ have to laugh because according to your description of voters and that of many others who ' define ' how and why people voted to suit their view I must be so intelligent because I voted Remain^ Yet another twisting of what I said.

^ "So one rule for the person who knows everything"^ more obfuscation because you have only posted part of what I said. It was clear that I was saying you had a different rule for me than for yourself.

Come on be fair, don't interpret my posts for your agenda.

Beammeupscottie what a nasty , disparaging post.

You mean these little Englanders are like the black Professor of economics (PhD( I worked with who voted to Leave the EU? Or the disabled ex Head Teacher who fought in the war and now volunteers five days a week to raise money for the Syrian refugees....Or the local Asian shopkeeper who works as a community policeman - works mainly around the youth clubs with disaffected youth.

You mean those sorts of Little Englanders? Or do you only see knuckle-draggers?

Varian if it makes you happy to post negative and what can only be construed as racist posts so be it.

I am of the opinion that blind faith in one point of view is destructive. You only have to look at The Palace of Westminster for verification of that.

Continually attacking sections of the community solves nothing and achieves even less.

"So one rule for the person who knows everything"

That was YOUR slur nonnie

I don't know anything. I didn't claim to, but I do not think it will be the disaster all-knowing Remainers claim it will be either. I don't know what will happen when we leave the EU, and neither do you/Remainers.

We haven't had the Brexit 'experience' before so we are all going into the unknown - ie: not known until plans are revealed once we leave the EU. It depends on the withdrawal agreement as to the arrangements we'll make in April 2019.

I have faith we will thrive. I read articles from that viewpoint too, written by people with more knowledge of Europe and economics than I have. They are optimistic.

Varian

So you keep repeating but your posts and the underlying nasty tone of them fools nobody, accept those who agree with your view of course of which there are sadly many.