Corbyn's long game - driving journalists crazy- and you?

Ffs hate???

No one hates Corbyn! You can debate and disagree policies and personalities without anyone Hating

Good grief when did we get so childish.

The day after the referendum Corbyn was on tv saying

Trigger Article 50.

When challenged in the house he said ‘ Maybe I should have chosen my words more carefully ‘

Reminds one of ‘ i was there but I don’t know if I was involved ‘

Or ‘ it was anti semetic, I didn’t look closely’

Or ‘I was on the site but I didn’t read the posts ‘

Or not my wreath?

jura2, Quote [Oh yes, say it again, 'Conference' blessed Conference.]End quote.

Yes Corbyn has wholeheartedly followed the lay member conference policy on Brexit, and that's the way it should be.

Really does get to these Tory leave people when they are reminded that it was the Conservative Party that got Beitain into this mess, and no other Party has any obligation to sacrifice their policies to get the Tories out of the situation they have got themselves and Britain into.

The first priority as laid out by the grassroots party activists is "to seek a General Election.

Simple as that jura2.

not forgetting ‘I have never met a member of the IRA’

When reminded he had sat on a platform with them ,
Dianne Abbott explained ‘ yes he was there but he didn’t speak to them’

All the posts about Rees Mogg and nanny , seems Corbyn has one too ?

Grandad - if only it was simple.

At the time of Conference, a lot of facts were not known- the situation was very different.

The cost to the country will be massive, and the Tories will be responsible- but JC could have positively opposed and saved us from No Deal. Country before Party- instead of helping destroying the first, and destroying the second.

And no- it is NOT simple, at all, as well you know.

The first priority as laid out by the grassroots party activists is "to seek a General Election.
so following their own interests, then!

From The European:

A clear and unambiguous pro-Remain position from Labour would give the party a resounding 27% lead over the Conservatives, an 8% lead over the Brexit Party and a 14% increase in their overall vote, new research has revealed.

jura2, this whole Brexit fiasco was an attempt by David Cameron to end a long-running row in the Tory party in regard to Britain's membership of the European Union.

In that, it was the Tory party that decided to hold the referendum and prominent Conservative Party MPs headed most of the leave campaign. They gave to the British Electorate false information regarding the downside effects that the UK leaving the European Union could have on the British economy.

During that campaign and since they have labelled anything stated on those downside effects as "Project Fear." However even today we are hearing of up to twenty-four thousand jobs are under severe threat at British Steel because of this Tory Government mishandling of Brexit and I have no doubt that leave supporters will again label that as " Project Fear."

So it is this shambles of a Government that got Britain into this mess, continues to keep Britain in this mess with absolutely no idea among its numerous fighting factions how to resolve the situation.

Therefore the sooner this so-called government are gone from office, and a General Election called the better it will be for everyone who resides in this country.

In that, the Labour Party lay activists conference policy of pursuing a General Election as priority has proven to be the correct one as time has demonstrated.

That policy I very much support and the Parliamentary Labour Party should give no further assistance to this Shambles of an administration.

HOw anyone can support this government I don't know. Any other country would be out on the streets demanding a GE instead we have pathetic posts on GN about irrelevancies. So this inadequate Tory shambles leads us head long into a no-deal Brexit and Rees Mogg and his cronies are sitting counting the cash they will make.

Callistemon Quote [The first priority as laid out by the grassroots party activists is "to seek a General Election.
so following their own interests, then!] End Quote.

Callistemon, many of those grassroots activists attending the last Labour Movement Conference were from various trade unions. In that, many are subject to Gig Economy conditions of work, or zero hours contracts, or live in private rented housing and are subject to eviction on a few weeks notice, or perhaps are subject to all the above.

As they see it no doubt, it makes little difference to them if Britain is in or out of the European Union as life has changed little for them in near two decades.

What those delegates wish to see is a government that speaks and acts for them, hence the call for a General Election as first priority. Therefore, if it is seen as those grassroots delegates pursuing that policy for their own interests, so be it I feel, and I hope they succeed in that.

That may be tough for some at present, but many of those delegates and their families have had it very tough for a long time.

Labour panics as remain voters switch to Liberal Democrats. Polls make Vince Cable’s party the favourite for remainers and put it in first place in London

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/18/labour-panic-remain-voters-switch-to-lib-dems

It may not just be the Tories who end up being embarrassed by the result of our EU elections.

Former Labour MP Andrew Mackinlay announced he would be voting for the Lib Dems because of the inability of the Labour Party to prevent a damaging Brexit.

www.libdemvoice.org/watch-lib-dem-stop-brexit-rally-with-tim-former-labour-mp-backing-lib-dems-layla-and-vince-60877.html

But of course Grandad - of course. Cameron and the Tories are responsible for this abominable fiasco. But we are where we are now- and Corbyn has aided and abetted them all the way- when he could have made an excellent case for opposing and a second ref at an earlier stage. But he is anti EU and has always been - and he is very unlikely to win a GE.

So what then ?!?

The Tories will just blame May- and rally around Boris or another ERG- win the GE and have a mandate for No Deal and WTO. Is that what YOU want, as a true Labour and JC supporter? Will that deliver on the NHS, a fairer society, social services and education, etc. I don't think so.

The Unions are pulling Corbyn’s strings , memories of Wilson’s and Callaghan’s time in power.

And yet it it the Unions' members which are losing their jobs and have the most to fear.

www.spectator.co.uk/2019/05/corbyn-isnt-working-and-labour-is-being-picked-apart-by-its-new-enemies/?fbclid=IwAR3BNiBNuG9dk4EIJOFKQuHsIo_69rHZh54ohI80PAV0-Tkd25ioQoFJSIY

Really Jura , how have union members more to fear than millions who don’t belong to a union. ?

In response to your post: the Unions are pulling his strings - and yes, they will all be at risk, union or not.

You can’t get clearer than this: John McDonnell says Labour wants Brexit

www.markpack.org.uk/158838/you-cant-get-clearer-than-this-john-mcdonnell-says-labour-wants-brexit/

If you have been a Labour Party voter, and like the majority of Labour Party voters and Labour Party members, you want to STOP BREXIT vote Liberal Democrat today.

Jura Corbyn has said he will give back to unions the power they had in the 60’s and 70’s, remember all those strikes ?

Oh I do- housebound after a severe accident, with a husband working days and nights and unable to go up or down stairs (we lived in the attic apartment of a large Victorian house) - we had the coal strike and the change from gas systems- no heating whatsoever. We had to move to a room with a 2'6 bed, 1 chair and a sink, in a portacabin in the hospital - so I would not freeze to death.

Queen Mary's Hospital, Roehampton.

If your family has benefitted from maternity leave and pay, from holiday pay, from equal pay for women, from health and safety legislation, from anything which has improved the lives of working people then you have benefitted from Union action and from strikes. So all those people who are actually condemning unions should be aware that without them you would probably be sending children to work at 14 in sweatshops for peanuts. Just stop dissing the things that have brought you the lifestyle you have enjoyed and appreciate that it is still under threat, Hence the return of zero hours contracts as union strength was eroded. The only question is having removed security of employment what else can they get rid of?