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Dominic Cummings has left No.10.....

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Ramblingrose22 Fri 13-Nov-20 20:13:51

...to clear the air apparently.

If the air needed clearing and couldn't be cleared unless he left the premises we can imagine how bad the atmosphere must have been.

But before we get too excited, we won't see the back of him for another month. He's still going to carry on working for the PM behind the scenes till mid-December. Boris needs his ideas for as long as possible so that's understandable.

What I don't understand is why he was thought to be some kind of genius in the first place.......

Missingmoominmama Sat 14-Nov-20 10:26:58

I was initially elated at the news, but now I’m wondering whether it’s spin, to get us all trusting Boris’ judgement...

Curlywhirly Sat 14-Nov-20 10:27:24

I also wonder whether his very public departure was stage managed. Nazir Afzal, a previous Chief Prosecutor for the CPS, has recently submitted new evidence to suggest that Cummings may have lied over his trip to Durham in April. If a court case is in the offing and all the negative publicity that would raise, maybe Johnson is trying to distance himself from Cummings. I wouldn't be surprised though, if he still carries on advising and working for the PM on the quiet.

cangran Sat 14-Nov-20 10:31:54

Rats, sinking ship - before the Brexit chaos he was much a part of, with his lies writ large on the side of a bus, and Boris' oven-ready deal' before the last election, hits the fan.

CarlyD7 Sat 14-Nov-20 10:37:45

His exit was clearly staged and he will probably carry on advising Boris "behind the scenes" as that's why B hired him in the first place as he has so few ideas of his own. Also Cummings was great in the campaigning to get Boris elected and get the Leave vote, but that doesn't mean he's the best person to see these things through. I read that Cummings worked in Russia for a few years and is a great admirer of Putin. Putin's mission has always been to create chaos in the West. Looks like Doms done a good job of that (for him?) Now he's off - having made the mess, before he has to clear it up.

leeds22 Sat 14-Nov-20 10:39:15

Hurrah! But he's done well for Barnard Castle. What a mess as Brexit looms.

Luckygirl Sat 14-Nov-20 10:46:14

I am seriously worried for Boris......how will he fart without Cummings?......how will he know how or when or why?

Luckygirl Sat 14-Nov-20 10:47:11

I suspect a bit of window dressing for the Tory backbenchers who detest the bloke. That does not mean his influence will not still be felt.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 14-Nov-20 10:49:45

“Downing Street will have been doing focus group research on a No Deal Brexit. Food shortages. Medicine shortages. Job losses. Chaos in Northern Ireland. Border issues. Plus inflation. These and much more must have gone down well. And you wonder why Cummings has been booted?”

Alison333 Sat 14-Nov-20 10:50:44

Very pleased that Dominic Cummings has left/been fired if that's true and he's not somewhere lurking in the background, but what really concerns me is that there may be other people in power who have never been elected and aren't even government employees. Why the need for 'Special Advisors', isn't that what parliament is for??

Rosina Sat 14-Nov-20 10:53:07

'Bit sad to read posters saying that people flout the rules 'because DC did'. Surely you would have to be perverse in the extreme to do something that was generally acknowledged to be wrong and dangerous simply because someone else had, whoever they might be? A Labour minister travelled on a train in full knowledge that she had Covid. I wouldn't - would anyone else be so cavalier with other people's health? As my Mother often quoted ' If so and so put their head in a gas oven, would you?'

Whitewavemark2 Sat 14-Nov-20 10:58:03

Rosina

'Bit sad to read posters saying that people flout the rules 'because DC did'. Surely you would have to be perverse in the extreme to do something that was generally acknowledged to be wrong and dangerous simply because someone else had, whoever they might be? A Labour minister travelled on a train in full knowledge that she had Covid. I wouldn't - would anyone else be so cavalier with other people's health? As my Mother often quoted ' If so and so put their head in a gas oven, would you?'

My mum used to say the same.

But the sad fact is that they do just that.

Look at the way that the Trumpers have gone about no mask wearing or social distancing because their guru says so.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 14-Nov-20 11:01:16

Look at the vote leave legacy and how much we have shelled out for their pursuit of wealth and the rest of the country can go hang.

Hetty58 Sat 14-Nov-20 11:07:49

So he's gone - things are looking up! Of course, he had to go very publicly, through the front door with his box of possessions, didn't he?

Luckygirl Sat 14-Nov-20 11:21:11

Rosina - unfortunately people have ignored the rules because of Cummings nonsense - I have heard them say it. The "we're all in this together" attitude went down the pan at that point.

I have learned never to underestimate the perversity of the GBP!

MamaCaz Sat 14-Nov-20 11:31:50

Today 09:45 Doodledog
I wonder what we are being distracted from.
He shouldn't have been allowed to leave by the front door (and the fact that there were so many journalists there points to his having tipped them off in advance). Plus, his office is not even in No 10, so if there were any doubt that this is a staged performance, the dramatic exit would make me wonder.

Very astute observations, Doodledog!

Patticake123 Sat 14-Nov-20 11:39:32

My guess is that the unelected fiancé will be pulling the strings now.

Rosina Sat 14-Nov-20 11:54:34

Whitewavemark and Luckygirl I do find this depressing - it is always that which is the best option as far as we can see, but inconvenient or difficult, that goes straight out of the window at the first opportunity. In this instance, I do so agree, it's Trump and Cummings who are being made the excuse to do as you please. Perversity rules.

Jaberwok Sat 14-Nov-20 11:55:39

DC, wasn't the only prominent person to break lockdown rules!! Although reading these posts would lead anyone to believe he was! Stephen Kinnock got there first, but no one mentions him!! Ian Blackford was another!! All obscene, not just one!

MamaCaz Sat 14-Nov-20 12:00:02

Did Steven Kinnock play an important part (or even any part whatsoever) in formulating the rules that we were all supposed to be following?

If not, there's no comparison!

(Not that that excuses him.)

Jaberwok Sat 14-Nov-20 12:00:03

Even dear old J.C and Barry Gardner ( was that his surname? I forget!) Equally obscene!

Jaberwok Sat 14-Nov-20 12:04:08

No he (kinnock) isn't important, but he comes from a high profile political family and is married to a senior politician, so really should know better!!

railman Sat 14-Nov-20 12:05:04

Oh yes, Cambia - Carrie had the common sense to get hooked up with an opportunistic chancer.

It's gone really well hasn't it.

JohnD Sat 14-Nov-20 12:08:53

Mention Cummings and his error of judgement is resurected, but he travelled by car, unlike a certain woman who travelled by train after suffering from symptons and then returned home by train after being tested as positive.

suziewoozie Sat 14-Nov-20 12:18:56

JohnD

Mention Cummings and his error of judgement is resurected, but he travelled by car, unlike a certain woman who travelled by train after suffering from symptons and then returned home by train after being tested as positive.

And this is relevant how? I’m actually able like most other posters to disapprove of more than one persons rule breaking at once. Clever eh? I also know that the DC fiasco ( error of judgement Bernard Castke ??) was somewhat more complicated than your airbrushing admits and that his position is not directly comparable to that of an opposition MP.

biba70 Sat 14-Nov-20 12:23:33

I didn't spot this, but it was pointed out to me. Cummings, supposedly sacked- left with his security tag still around the neck. Staged, and badly at that ;)