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Firecracker123

Actually it was Sisters Uncut the same group who hijacked Sarah Everard vigil who teamed up with anarchists. Sorry to disappoint you it wasn't far right supporters.

That is very specific; where is the evience?

Of course 98% of people in Bristol are against violence Oldwoman70 - I'm surprised it's not higher. What is reported in any newspaper is down to the editor and/or proprietor.

What I have heard is, I agree, anecdotal, but comes from very reliable sources in Bristol.

It is right that a thorough investigation is made in the hope we can uncover the truth.

varian

Of course 98% of people in Bristol are against violence Oldwoman70 - I'm surprised it's not higher. What is reported in any newspaper is down to the editor and/or proprietor.

What I have heard is, I agree, anecdotal, but comes from very reliable sources in Bristol.

It is right that a thorough investigation is made in the hope we can uncover the truth.

I live in Bristol and have not heard this except for the one person posting in the local newspaper - as for what is reported being down to the editor and/or proprietor - the Bristol Post and its online version Bristol Live is a labour supporting news outlet which never misses an opportunity to criticise the government or its policies

Local elections are coming up soon. As you live in Bristol Oldwoman70 do you think that this horrible violence will help or hinder the prospects of Labour Mayor Marvin Rees being re-elected?

BigBertha1

Pritti Patel said it was 'unacceptable' as though it was a case of bad manners. I think she might have put it more strongly e.g. illegal!

Oh, I do hate it when politicians say something is 'unacceptable' - it's such a useless word in these circumstances!

A British citizen is illegally detained abroad - unacceptable
Riots - unacceptable
Racist language - unacceptable

It's so lacking in substance and such a weak response!

The people who rioted in the streets in Bristol did not go because they were incited by 'Kill the Bill' to do violence to policemen, and women; they went because they were intent on causing harm.
Probably few political convictions, just an intense resentment of authority and seeking an opportunity to attack it.

Obviously the police had to respond to ever-changing and unpredictable events last night but I was astounded to see so few arrests, the burning of police cars, taunting of the police and spraying graffiti on their shields, whilst it appeared from the TV footage that the police just stood protecting the police station.

Where they short-staffed?

They seemed to have lost control - the burning of vehicles was particularly shocking.

varian

Local elections are coming up soon. As you live in Bristol Oldwoman70 do you think that this horrible violence will help or hinder the prospects of Labour Mayor Marvin Rees being re-elected?

No - because in Bristol you could put up a plank of wood as the Labour candidate and it would be elected

To see the protest being shown on T.V and showing the violence aggression and hostility that the police had to face
was disgusting. I watched many young woman also drinking and dancing amidst the stones thrown and fires being lit without wearing a mask and apparently enjoying being filmed.
Are these the young woman we were all protesting about last week and saying we want more done for young girls and young women on our streets.

What was the response from Priti Patel?
She said it was unacceptable. !!!!!!!!
The response I heard from Boris Johnson today.
He said it was unacceptable !!!!!!!!

l would use words much stronger than that after seeing the carnage of that protest Priti Patel and Boris Johnson
your response is totally UNACCEPTABLE. !!!!!!!!

Considering the many posts I have read on Gransnet from
people who think it's ok to do whatever they want I should think this protest and the results would be perfectly fine.

BBJS ; I wonder if you could elaborate a little more on your post. The original poster asked what our thoughts were on the protest in Bristol. You referred to the fact that people do as they want are you saying that the protest and the results were fine?

I'd have deployed hoses----right up their backsides until they scooted off. Humiliating ? Yes, which is what's needed then we could all have a jolly good laugh. That would dampen the gung-ho attitude of the mobsters as well as a lesson learned in case they tried it on again.

These mobs thrive on violence and the thought of millions watching them perform gives them more of a buzz----well I'd knock that on the head for starters by soaking them to the skin in the freezing weather. Knock 'em down like ninepins.

I don't even hold with protests of any kind as they are used as an excuse for the heavy mob to join in as invariably they end up with violence.

Far Right ? Are they any worse than the Marxist/ Trotskyist groups of the Far left ?

Communists/ Anarchists---call them what you like but that mob in Bristol were far-left anarchists who don't believe in law and order on the streets.

EllanVannin

Communists/ Anarchists---call them what you like but that mob in Bristol were far-left anarchists who don't believe in law and order on the streets.

Why on earth would anarchists be far left or far right?

They don't believe in anything except doing what they want to do.

Anti-police. Anti-government rule. Anti-establishment. Anti-Royal. Anti- anyone who dares to own their own businesses/ property.

What a good job they're in the minority !!

Which is what I said MaizieD !

Oldwoman70

varian

Local elections are coming up soon. As you live in Bristol Oldwoman70 do you think that this horrible violence will help or hinder the prospects of Labour Mayor Marvin Rees being re-elected?

No - because in Bristol you could put up a plank of wood as the Labour candidate and it would be elected

I'm struggling to understand what the Labour Mayor has to do with the riots.

Did he incite the rioters? Was he alongside them? Did he organise the protest?

This is not a party political issue. The matter of the Policing Bill, which is what the protest was about initially, has actually caused significant worries across all the parties, including the tories. Even tory voting citizens have concerns about the loss and criminalisation of our right to protest.

EllanVannin

Which is what I said MaizieD !

Well, you didn't say that , EV. Read your post. The one I quoted. You said 'left wing anarchists'.

They're no more 'left wing' than I am tory...

Mayor Marvin Rees was quick to condemn therioters.

To let you know just how disgusting these people were - there are reports that some defecated in front of police and one woman is pictured dropping her pants and peeing in front of them - this is just anarchy and nothing to do with the Bill they are protesting.

Cars in a nearby car park - nothing to do with the police - were vandalised

One woman, interviewed on local radio, claimed the police started the violence (!) and that they must have intended to get violent because they came out of the police station which was being attacked wearing riot gear - I suppose she thought they should just stand there unprotected and take the violence and abuse.

varian

Mayor Marvin Rees was quick to condemn therioters.

Yes he did, but he is also being criticised because instead of just condemning the violence and thanking the police he used the interviews as an election platform.

No - because in Bristol you could put up a plank of wood as the Labour candidate and it would be elected

That is not strictly true Oldwoman70 because his predecessor, George Ferguson, was apparently a Liberal.

Callistemon

^No - because in Bristol you could put up a plank of wood as the Labour candidate and it would be elected^

That is not strictly true Oldwoman70 because his predecessor, George Ferguson, was apparently a Liberal.

Yes but the majority of councillors were Labour. George Ferguson was elected as the first elected Mayor and, I think, he won because he convinced people as a political novice he would bring fresh thinking to the city. When he proved to be a disaster people reverted to voting Labour.