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Trans rapist in woman’s prison ?

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Bridgeit Fri 12-Oct-18 10:24:34

Is this acceptable ? What are the alternatives ?

lemongrove Fri 12-Oct-18 21:22:17

trisher once again you have set yourself up on your high horse defending the indefensible.
Saying that you think all the posters on this thread are horrified by this incident because of ‘personal opinions and prejudices’ !!! Yes, we do feel outrage at this situation and quite rightly so.
A womens prison is no place for a man with a history of sexual violence towards women and children.End of.

PECS Fri 12-Oct-18 21:45:17

As a heterosexual female with a female body I find it really hard to appreciate the confusion and complexity felt by a female psyche in a male body or male psyche in a female body who mayor may not also be homosexual (I use psyche as I have no idea what 'correct' term might be) but accept that there are many lovely people who are coping with this very difficult situation.

However if someone claims to have a female psyche and has a male body I am at a greater loss to begin to understand how that 'woman' would have wanted to display such dreadful 'male' behaviour i.e. rape. I can only conclude that they must have serious mental health issues/ personality disorder over and above any sexual identity issues they may be dealing with. If that is the case then a prison is not the right place to incarcerate them.

blue25 Fri 12-Oct-18 23:43:11

We should not be allowing a person with a penis into female prisons. It puts women at risk. We all need to be very aware of this issue. The Youth Hostel Asociation is letting males identifying as females stay in 'women only' dorms. Safe spaces for women are disappearing and it's worrying. We have to be aware that some transgender males are seeking out these spaces so they can access females and abuse them.

FarNorth Sat 13-Oct-18 00:04:43

Abusive men will go to great lengths to gain access to victims, taking training as teachers, social workers, even holy orders.
Why would anyone disbelieve that a male sex offender would claim to have become a woman in order to gain access to victims?

Some male offenders are 'becoming women' towards the end of their sentence, or after release, believing that if they are sentenced again they will be put in a female prison.
They may well be correct.

FarNorth Sat 13-Oct-18 00:14:40

MPs wanted to ask questions about how prison authorities came to decide it was a good idea to place that rapist in a women's prison.
The Speaker of the House would not allow them to do so.

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/09/the-state-has-failed-karen-whites-victims/

Last week, it was confirmed that the State put a rapist and paedophile in a women’s prison. That rapist, who uses the name Karen White, then sexually assaulted four women in that prison...................................

Fortunately, a few MPs are willing to speak out. The obvious seriousness of the Karen White case persuaded more than one MP that the Commons should call a minister to explain and account for the incident.

David Davies, Tory MP for Monmouth, thus tabled an Urgent Question, a parliamentary request for the House to summon a minister to discuss the issues raised by the Karen White case, and of other transgender sex offenders in the prison estate. (Yes, there are others. There is at least one male-born rapist in a women’s prison today.)

The decision to grant a UQ and summon a minister rests with the Speaker, John Bercow. He grants a lot of UQs. That annoys ministers but pleases backbenchers. It’s probably the best aspect of his tenure as Speaker. I know he annoys a lot of people, but he’s been a good servant of the Commons, giving the legislature greater bite on the executive.

Given that, I’d have bet on him accepting a UQ on Karen White and transgender inmates. He didn’t. Mr Davies says the Speaker rejected his request. There are whispers that at least one other MP was also rebuffed.

Mycatisahacker Sun 14-Oct-18 16:52:30

If he has a cock he’s a man. Not relevant what he thinks or feels or dresses or wants

He’s a man and has no place in women’s areas.

Sick to death of this bollocks.

Bridgeit Sun 14-Oct-18 17:45:28

Yes I agree very well expressed Mycatisahacker.

garnet25 Sun 14-Oct-18 17:45:36

If anybody feels as strongly as I do those self-identifying trans men should not have access to women-only spaces follow this link for an easy way to submit your views to the government consultation on the Gender Recognition Act

fairplayforwomen.co.uk/

Bridgeit Sun 14-Oct-18 17:48:01

Thankyou ,Garnet25

Mycatisahacker Sun 14-Oct-18 18:47:33

Thanks garnet on it now. We need to halt this madness now

Mycatisahacker Sun 14-Oct-18 18:48:03

Bridgeit smile