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Fallen out with a friend

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Eglantine21 Wed 24-Apr-19 17:55:25

I have fallen out with a friend. I will try to explain what happened and be truthful, not just my side of things. Obviously there will be a range of opinions but if the consensus is that it was me who was unreasonable I will eat an enormous slice of humble pie and apologise.

A friend is going on a business trip to Rome. Her work starts on Monday and finishes on the Friday but she has rented an apartment from Friday to Friday and invited me to go for three nights, from Friday till Monday when she starts work.

She told me to book the same early morning flight as her, I would stay at her house and her husband would drive us both to the airport. Too early for trains. Then I would return on the Monday alone and make my own way home by train.
She said it would be “a cheap, chill out break and a chance to have a great time”.
I booked my flights.

A couple of days ago we met up and she said that Friday is her husband’s birthday and she now wants to spend the evening with him before going away, so I should make my own way to the airport and she would meet me through security. She then said that we should each do or own thing in Rome but meet up for the evening meals and that as she was providing the accommodation my contribution would be to pay for the meals for three nights as her expenses account won’t kick in till Monday.

I was taken aback but came home and looked at the logistics.

Drive through night to airport wasn’t an option. My night vision has failed me.

So drive down day before, park, spend night in hotel or train day before, hotel.

Along with paying for the meals it came to nearly £500. I rang her to say I couldn’t afford to do it now and she is very, very angry and says that I have compromised our friendship.

I appreciate I have let her down but I would never have said yes in the first place if I’d known what the arrangements were going to be. I haven’t taken the decision lightly as I’ve lost my airfare (and a friend) but I feel manipulated somehow.

Ok. I’m open to all thoughts on this.

Chewbacca Wed 24-Apr-19 19:51:06

I work in the field of finance notanan. That's how I know. wink

Callistemon Wed 24-Apr-19 19:52:54

Good grief, it gets worse.
This is not a fortnight's holiday, it's a three day trip!
private car to the airport??

This would not be on expenses.

Tweedle24 Wed 24-Apr-19 19:53:47

I suspect that you have simply got crossed wires. If your friend is having to pay for the extra three nights accommodation, then I would have expected to pay half or, pay for the meals. As for ‘doing your own thing’ during the day, I would expect your friend to be spending time with you, not leaving you on your own, having invited you for the weekend. I would have thought it reasonable for you to think you would be spending the days together. These are all things that should have been agreed long before you agreed to go and had paid for your flight. As for the birthday with her husband, she should have remembered that but, if she apologised, I suppose that is reasonable. I don’t see how you have spoiled her holiday if she was not expecting to spend time with you.
Where you go from here depends on how much you value your friendship.

notanan2 Wed 24-Apr-19 19:54:05

Maybe I should have a career change then!

Its not how it works in my field. Expenses all have to be accounted for!

notanan2 Wed 24-Apr-19 19:56:26

*Good grief, it gets worse.
This is not a fortnight's holiday, it's a three day trip!
private car to the airport??*

This would not be on expenses.

It was a suggestion to the OP about how she can use her flights by switching plans & doing a solo trip!

As I say, "private car" SOUNDS extravagant so people often dont even get quotes, but it can actually work out cheaper than other methods of airport transport.

Callistemon Wed 24-Apr-19 19:57:29

We just had a quote.

and it would not be on expenses.
so it's the bus for us.

Eglantine21 Wed 24-Apr-19 19:57:46

I wouldn’t go alone notanan. The whole point for me was to spend some time with her. To be honest even the cost of the break as it was suggested stretched my finances. I think my vision was three days of pasta!

Interestingly, going back to one of your earlier posts, to stay with a friend and bring food would have been the ultimate insult to my mother.

Well there’s a lesson learned. That is if anyone ever asks me again.........

notanan2 Wed 24-Apr-19 19:58:33

Callistemon, you get free weekend trips as well as actual work expenses on your employer too? Wow I REALLY picked the wrong job!

Callistemon Wed 24-Apr-19 20:00:02

Time for a change then notanan
Actually, you could find a job which provides a private jet, even more convenient.

Eglantine21 Wed 24-Apr-19 20:02:16

Ok, I’ll see if I can make peace but I still have to say I can’t afford it...

notanan2 Wed 24-Apr-19 20:02:53

Interestingly, going back to one of your earlier posts, to stay with a friend and bring food would have been the ultimate insult to my mother.

Interesting, but also avoided with good communication from the offset, as you said yourself.

A straightforward "how do you want to do expenses like food/petrol?" opens the floor, and if they feel like their contribution is the accomodation that will quickly come to light, likewise if they are of the "you are our guest I wont hear of it" variety, then you will know to just be gracious and accept.

notanan2 Wed 24-Apr-19 20:04:48

I dont understand your reply Callistemon, are you saying you can or cant tag on a weekend break to work trips and claim it all back? Sorry Im not reading the tone of the text

Sara65 Wed 24-Apr-19 20:05:13

If you were really good friends, I don’t think this situation would have ever arisen. It sounds like she has very little consideration for you , she must know you dislike night driving, but expects you to make your own arrangements, real friend fall over themselves trying to pay for everything, not try and wriggle out of paying for anything.
I would never treat any of my friends so unkindly, and I’m quite sure, none of my friends would treat me like it

notanan2 Wed 24-Apr-19 20:06:51

real friend fall over themselves trying to pay for everything OP isnt Sara

Lily65 Wed 24-Apr-19 20:07:35

Egaltine, if you can't afford it, you can't afford it....end of.

£500 on a break you don't want to go on with somebody who doesn't value you and frankly seems to have her own issues....... no way.

Callistemon Wed 24-Apr-19 20:08:02

Precisely.

notanan2 Wed 24-Apr-19 20:08:53

Precisely

Precisely what?

Lily65 Wed 24-Apr-19 20:08:54

Cultural difference are a red herring. She has messed you about.

Callistemon Wed 24-Apr-19 20:10:26

Precisely what Lily65 posted.

Bellanonna Wed 24-Apr-19 20:20:38

The friend was going on the Friday anyway wasn’t she? So she would have paid three days’ accommodation in any case. Im sure you would have paid for your own meals when you were there but it was a bit of a blow to be let down about the overnight stay at the “friend’s” house and then tombe to,d you were funding all the meals. I wouldn’t want that friendship to continue if it were me. It’s a real shame about the flights though. Sorry Eglantine, you have every right to be annoyed.

Atqui Wed 24-Apr-19 20:22:02

notanan2 are you sure you aren’t the friend?! grin you seem to be the only one who thinks the OP is unreasonable . I thing friend is “. ‘Avin’ a laugh!”

Sara65 Wed 24-Apr-19 20:29:17

I wouldn’t bother to try and make up, you’re better off out of it

BradfordLass72 Wed 24-Apr-19 20:30:52

I am firmly on your side Eglantine and wonder if this friend has been duplicitous in the past?

Taken as you stated it, your friend had arranged transport for you both to the airport with her husband.

I can see no reason why, if you are such close friends as to be invited on holiday, you could not also have been included in the birthday celebration and thus keep the transport to airport arrangement as they were.

The fact that she then expected you to drive through the night (did she know about your poor night vision?) and go to the extra expense of accommodation etc is appalling.

I don't believe for a moment she had forgotten the birthday. Nor do I think these are the actions of a friend.

Rather than getting angry, did she offer to pay the unexpected expense from the loss of your ticket?

You see, if she were being honest with you, she would NOT have been angry but apologetic and saying how sorry she was that her change of plan had inconvenience you and cost you money.

Sadly she knows you well enough to think she can use you and then, when it doesn't work, has the gall to try and blame you for HER faults. No friend at all.

I'm so sorry you have been denied a happy break as well as losing your money but you are not in any way to blame, so PLEASE top feeling guilty or you are playing into the hands of a very selfish person.

Sara65 Wed 24-Apr-19 20:34:36

BradfordLass
That is spot on!

Eglantine21 Wed 24-Apr-19 20:36:19

I have paid regard to notanan because I could see that my friend might have been thinking the way notanan does. In which case the withdrawal of the stayover was a kind of payback to me.

I suppose I thought she was being kind and offering me a cheap break because I’m a bit in dire straits financially with having to rent and wouldn’t be going away otherwise.

I’ve just tried to speak to her but she is very angry with me. She actually said that I had lots of money from the sale of my house and should use some of that. I do need the money to buy another house though. It’s not for spending. In fact the cost of the move and the fact that three purchases have fallen through is why Im so strapped.

Oh damn,damn.