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Fallen out with a friend

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Eglantine21 Wed 24-Apr-19 17:55:25

I have fallen out with a friend. I will try to explain what happened and be truthful, not just my side of things. Obviously there will be a range of opinions but if the consensus is that it was me who was unreasonable I will eat an enormous slice of humble pie and apologise.

A friend is going on a business trip to Rome. Her work starts on Monday and finishes on the Friday but she has rented an apartment from Friday to Friday and invited me to go for three nights, from Friday till Monday when she starts work.

She told me to book the same early morning flight as her, I would stay at her house and her husband would drive us both to the airport. Too early for trains. Then I would return on the Monday alone and make my own way home by train.
She said it would be “a cheap, chill out break and a chance to have a great time”.
I booked my flights.

A couple of days ago we met up and she said that Friday is her husband’s birthday and she now wants to spend the evening with him before going away, so I should make my own way to the airport and she would meet me through security. She then said that we should each do or own thing in Rome but meet up for the evening meals and that as she was providing the accommodation my contribution would be to pay for the meals for three nights as her expenses account won’t kick in till Monday.

I was taken aback but came home and looked at the logistics.

Drive through night to airport wasn’t an option. My night vision has failed me.

So drive down day before, park, spend night in hotel or train day before, hotel.

Along with paying for the meals it came to nearly £500. I rang her to say I couldn’t afford to do it now and she is very, very angry and says that I have compromised our friendship.

I appreciate I have let her down but I would never have said yes in the first place if I’d known what the arrangements were going to be. I haven’t taken the decision lightly as I’ve lost my airfare (and a friend) but I feel manipulated somehow.

Ok. I’m open to all thoughts on this.

loopyloo Thu 25-Apr-19 11:59:47

Agree with Gillybob, you were being used as a cover. Do something else that weekend.

EmilyHarburn Thu 25-Apr-19 12:12:20

Seems with hindsight it would have been an idea to discuss how you were going to share joint expenses. How much had you budgeted for a weekend in Rome? As your friend has an apartment you could buy from a local supermarket and make a meal each night. The extra payment for a night is a problem possibly the problem. It seems you were going home by train so I am not sure how if you were driving down to her place to your friends place to stay the night. You were going to take the train back why not get a return, take the very latest train down, and just spend a bit longer in the airport waiting for the early morning flight. OR if not it is light very early now can't you get up early and drive direct to the airport in time for the early morning flight.

I appreciate that your friend has given you a very complex problem by taking away her over night hospitality and insisting you pay for 3 meals.

do hope you can find a way through this that works for you.

Riggie Thu 25-Apr-19 12:16:01

I totally agree that the friend has been unreasonable to change the Friday travel arrangements, and I don't think I'd be happy to be told that I'd be expected to just go and do my own thing!!

I'm torn on the meal thing. Like others I'd offer to take her out for a meal or two as she's providing the accommodation (even though it's on her expenses!) but it would be on my terms. Having been told I was paying I'd be worried about what her expectations would be - presumably as you wouldn't be together during the day it would just be evening meals but does she expect "The works" plus a lot of booze lot just a good but modest meal??

knspol Thu 25-Apr-19 12:19:29

Could well be that the friend is paying for the accommodation for the extra, non work nights but that's not the point. Rather than a few days break with a good friend the goal posts have changed and now she's even saying you should both go your own way during the days and just meet up at night? Seems to me her whole attitude has changed and you're not being unreasonable at all, your friend is!

chaffinch Thu 25-Apr-19 12:27:48

Haven’t read all the posts so apologies if this has been mooted already.
Do you think husband was miffed when he heard about all the plans for a girly weekend, so insisted on a birthday celebration and also complained about cost etc. so the friend is obliged to ask OP to pay for a lot of it?

Bellanonna Thu 25-Apr-19 12:31:51

Can’t quite figure out the dynamics here. Did she only realise after inviting you to share the apartment, that a romantic liaison was also going to be in Rome at the same time (possibly a work colleague at the same conference)? If she had known beforehand that he would be there then she would not have wanted you there at all surely? If she only found out after you’d booked it seems a strange way of putting you off because you might actually have bitten the bullet and still agreed to go. Given that you told her you wouldn’t be going, whyever did she get angry? Surely she would have been relieved? I can’t quite get my head around this particular theory unless I’m just being thick. Under any circumstances anyway she is an unpleasant and duplicitous person and I don’t know why you would still want to be friends with her.

Gingergirl Thu 25-Apr-19 12:34:57

I don’t think she is being honest with you. She couldn’t have overlooked her husband’s birthday! Sounds like it just didn’t pan out how she intended. If you don’t want to pay for all the meals (and why should you...it was her that invited you), and don’t want to do the journey and to stay overnight pre flight(nor would I), I would explain to her again how you feel, say you’re also sorry how it’s worked out and hope you can stay as friends, and leave it at that. It really won’t affect her trip that much!Give her a little time and it may blow over. Of course it will affect your friendship, but so be it.

loopyloo Thu 25-Apr-19 12:47:42

I think her partner has his suspicions and made a scene about her being away for his birthday.

NannyG123 Thu 25-Apr-19 12:51:40

Eglatine21,I think you should hold your head up high, in my opinion you are in the right, firstly she changed the arrangements for the Friday. But if also don't understand why she would expect you to do things on your own during the day if she isn't working. Surely it would be so much nicer to spend time sightseeing with a friend to enjoy it with.

Day6 Thu 25-Apr-19 13:02:44

I don’t think she is being honest with you. She couldn’t have overlooked her husband’s birthday!

I agree Gingergirl

I think the friend had an agenda - no idea why she would ask you to go to Rome with her and then want to be alone to do her own thing. Very suspicious.

Rebecca3 Thu 25-Apr-19 13:04:34

As others have said, she seems a very unpleasant and duplicitous person, you are well rid of her.

Pix5 Thu 25-Apr-19 13:17:09

Feels to me like she is using you as a meal ticket, rather than a chill out break together. I don't think friends do that.

Nanny123 Thu 25-Apr-19 13:17:15

Agree with the most of everyone above. Sadly you have lost a friend but she wasn’t thinking of you when she changed the goals posts

Nannyxthree Thu 25-Apr-19 13:18:28

You are well out of it. This lady has an agenda that does not include you or her husband!
When I've done business trips I always left on the last possible date and came home on the first. Adding extra days to go off by herself when it would have made a lovely birthday treat does not add up. As others have said - you've been used.

Barmeyoldbat Thu 25-Apr-19 13:23:05

Its no good people saying what they would have done or what she should have done. The fact is her so called friend has let her down and not been entirely honest from the start. Dump her, put it down to experience and find a more honest friend.

Callistemon Thu 25-Apr-19 13:41:07

Actually when I decided not to go ahead I hadn’t checked in, so I did offer my plane tickets for her husband or daughter. Or another friend if she could get someone at short notice.

She said no.

I don't have a suspicious mind but, having read some other posts on here, I think they have a point. You would be cramping her style if you spent all weekend together and taking her husband or daughter would really put the cat amongst the pigeons in St Mark's Square!
grin

Lilylaundry Thu 25-Apr-19 13:57:27

Eglantine21 you should be jumping for joy now the initial shock of what she has done has worn off. From now on she no longer deserves to be your friend, if that is her idea of friendship and what friends to do each other you are better out of it. Smile and say to yourself - a lesson learned, then move on to real friendships.

Miamax5 Thu 25-Apr-19 13:57:29

Notanan2 the accommodation was being covered by friend’s expenses provided by the company she works for. So not at her personal expense at all.

Rebecca3 Thu 25-Apr-19 13:58:32

I will add that these issues nearly always do come down to money. I'd suggest that she asked you, genuinely, as a friend ( thinking impulsively that it would be fun) She then began to realise that the money would be quite a lot.... began to think she was being "over generous" ( !!!!!) Maybe husband made fuss, (when she finally told him the whole plan) so she started to try to back track. They ( or he) decided that the whole thing would cost much more than she initially thought, so decided you should pay too!! Quite likely the husband is behind the whole of the "backtracking"... told her she could use his birthday as a reason to backtrack? I doubt whether she had a liason in Rome...wouldn't have asked you if she was planning that. Now she is furious ( possibly with husband too) ; serves her right.

Mapleleaf Thu 25-Apr-19 14:00:20

I know hindsight is a wonderful thing, and perhaps being clearer about all the expenses involved, and who would be paying for what, at the start, before flights, etc, were booked would have been wise.
However, from all that you have posted, Eglantine, it reads as if your 'friend' was being quite manipulative, and using you as a convenience. For you to have the impression that you would spend the three days together seeing the sights and eating together at night, for it to be changed by your friend to just you spending the evenings together with you paying for the meals, smacks of manipulation on her part. As others say, I wonder just what she planned to do during the day, whilst I assume her husband thought she would be with you?
You did the right thing by backing out, as the whole agenda had completely changed.

moorlikeit Thu 25-Apr-19 14:13:48

notanan2

You are concentrating on one aspect: the cost allocation of the accommodation and meals.
You have totally ignored the other aspects which do put the "friend" in the wrong. 1) changing the arrangements to go the airport (meaning OP has to pay out a lot more money) and 2) suddenly deciding not to share any of the daytime with the OP. Not everyone would wish to see Rome alone! Especially if accompanying a friend. I would be shocked at that alone.

NannaSazie Thu 25-Apr-19 14:17:06

It doesn't matter the reason. If you now can't afford the trip, that's the end of the story and it's not up to your friend or anyone else to question that. If you said I've changed my mind and don't want to go she could be annoyed but you don't have the money. Another question, did she somehow alter her travel arrangements when she thought you were coming? If not, what has she lost besides someone to pay for her meals? Sorry, she's totally wrong and I wonder if notanan2 is her, under a pseudonym, because I can't honestly imagine how anyone could think otherwise. Sorry, this one has me riled up!

chris8888 Thu 25-Apr-19 14:28:17

Wow l would of cancelled too.

Eglantine21 Thu 25-Apr-19 14:28:37

Thank you everyone. It’s given me a lot of reassurance that I did make the right decision or at least that the only decision I could have made wasn’t an unreasonable one.

I can’t see a way back from this really, which is a shame., but thankfully I do have other people in my life and it just means I will spend more time with them ?

gillybob Thu 25-Apr-19 14:39:11

Good for you Eglantine.

Now upwards and onwards ! smile