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Razzy Tue 04-Jan-22 18:25:49

Hi. My mother-in-law has died, she was ill for a long time and her family rarely saw her as they live some distance. My OH is arranging the funeral and asked me about dates. I told him I had only one really vital day I needed to be at work, as we have the whole team in and discuss and plan major changes. It is particularly important this year. I told him to let me know potential dates. This evening he has told me the funeral is going to be on that one day. Not only that but he says we are going to go down the day before and spend the day/night in a hotel. We never normally would stay the night when driving there. Of course I know I will have to go to the funeral but AIBU to be annoyed? My daughter is upset as she will miss 2 days of school instead of one.

MissAdventure Fri 07-Jan-22 18:50:19

It is a statement of fact.
People die without any regard for important deadlines, things which simply cannot be put off, children who need them, (perhaps consider my perspective on that) droves of folk who will be impacted.

It's not necessary to have a high powered job to know that a company want you to available as and when, and as much as it suits them.

In fact, some of the poorer paying companies are the worst for enforcing their rules, and making sure the price is paid if you don't.

MissAdventure Fri 07-Jan-22 18:55:08

Any road up, I'm sure the op will sort it out, one way or another. smile
It seems her husband didn't support her at her mums funeral, so it obviously works for them.

Chewbacca Fri 07-Jan-22 18:58:46

Germanshepherdsmum taking MissAdventure to task for her post saying graveyards being full of people too important to take time off work could in no way be construed as a personal insult. It was an unarguable observation.

And your instructions for her to Try to have some compassion and understanding couldn't possibly be more inappropriately placed. You obviously have no knowledge at all about MissAdventure, none at all.

Peasblossom Fri 07-Jan-22 19:02:13

GSM, that was snarky and I apologise.

Yes, there are times when work has to come before family.

Nevertheless, because of the position I held at work, I’m pretty good at recognising when someone is playing “dodgems”. Not wanting to do something and fishing up all kinds of excuses so they don’t have to take responsibility or be the “baddy”.

The OPs story is one of those. She never intended to go, but she wants it to look like her husbands fault.

Or it’s all made up anyway?

Beswitched Sat 08-Jan-22 21:01:15

Germanshepherdsmum

Thank you maddy, and my condolences on the loss of your mother in law. It's sad that some people just don't understand and make comments about graveyards being full of people too important to take time off work, which I take as a personal insult. If any of those making that comment had been my client at that time (not that you would have been as it was a corporate matter) I bet you would have raised merry hell if I'd left you in the soft stuff and I would have expected a negligence action as the loss would have been enormous. As it was, when the instruction came through my secretary took the call as I was at my father's funeral. The client only decided not to go elsewhere when she told him the reason for my absence. I'm afraid some of you really have no idea. I'm truly sorry about the number of funerals you've attended lately paddy but I do wish people would refrain on passing judgment on a situation that is beyond their personal experience. I have every sympathy with OP because of my own experience and I hope that whatever she does doesn't go against her family- or work-wise. I'm afraid employers can have long memories when it comes to promotions and salary reviews, unfair though that may be.

I can't imagine anyone I know not attending their mother in law's funeral because it might go against them when it comes to reviews and promotions. Some of you must work for pretty disgusting bosses.

Calistemon Sat 08-Jan-22 21:40:44

Any road up
MissA My Mum used to say that! I remember remarking at her funeral that she would have loved the get-together and her BIL got very annoyed with me.
She would have done - she loved a family get-together ?

graveyards being full of people too important to take time off work

"I should have spent more time at work or "I should have spent more time cleaning"
I hope I never say either of those things.

MayBeMaw Sat 08-Jan-22 21:42:52

Peasblossom

Of course, I’m just saying that.

I was really the cleaner ?

The Tea Lady was the one we all tried our damndest to keep on the right side of!

Calistemon Sat 08-Jan-22 21:42:58

was really the cleaner ?

Very valued, very important and sometimes to be feared!

paddyann54 Sun 09-Jan-22 01:08:17

gsm I do have some experience of life and business having run my own businesses since I was 21 and only closing the last one when covid hit .There is no way I would have asked any of my staff to work if there had been a bereavement in their immediate circle ...not just close family .Its work ,sure it pays the bills but a loss is so much more important especially when its a close relation ,like a mum or sister or a partners family.Meetings can be rearranged and should be in these circumstances and I cant imagine anyone I know who would insist a meeting went ahead when support was needed by my OH. I've happily cancelled holidays because of a job but never rearranged a funeral for it

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 09-Jan-22 11:49:12

You might have some experience of life and of running businesses paddy but I doubt any of those businesses was a law firm. I posted my personal experience above and maddy understood it because her son is a barrister. You obviously can’t comprehend my experience. Nor it seems can you empathise with the OP’s situation, which I can understand and sympathise with. Please don’t come back to rub more salt into the wounds.

Mamma66 Sun 09-Jan-22 12:09:28

In relation to the comments about employers being reasonable about attending funerals, my Mother died in May 2012. Her death was extremely traumatic and my lovely husband sat with me, my Dad and other family members whilst she died. Having been up for 2.5 days straight, he rang work and explained the situation. His incredibly supportive (not) employers insisted that he attend a disciplinary meeting on his return to work even though his attendance record is exemplary and he has been nominated as employee of the year on more than one occasion. His sister died unexpectedly in March 2019 and he had to take annual leave to attend her funeral as they wouldn’t grant compassionate leave. When my Father died in October 2020 they did at least allow him one whole day of compassionate leave to attend the funeral. On the other hand, my far more considerate employers could not have been more supportive

MayBeMaw Sun 09-Jan-22 12:38:23

Clearly working in the public sector has some advantages.
When my lovely dog dropped dead in the kitchen early one morning (3 dogs ago, not Hattie or Rosie) both my Headmaster and his Secretary whom I rang were more than understanding and happy to let me go into school for the afternoon once I had recovered my composure.

Beswitched Sun 09-Jan-22 14:49:19

Mamma66

In relation to the comments about employers being reasonable about attending funerals, my Mother died in May 2012. Her death was extremely traumatic and my lovely husband sat with me, my Dad and other family members whilst she died. Having been up for 2.5 days straight, he rang work and explained the situation. His incredibly supportive (not) employers insisted that he attend a disciplinary meeting on his return to work even though his attendance record is exemplary and he has been nominated as employee of the year on more than one occasion. His sister died unexpectedly in March 2019 and he had to take annual leave to attend her funeral as they wouldn’t grant compassionate leave. When my Father died in October 2020 they did at least allow him one whole day of compassionate leave to attend the funeral. On the other hand, my far more considerate employers could not have been more supportive

Employers like that really are a scourge. They lack perspective, compassion and humanity. Shocking behaviour and they should be deeply ashamed of themselves.

Hithere Sun 09-Jan-22 16:08:12

Employers are not that flexible.

Ask a lot of mothers about difficulties for pumping (1 year by law in the US), worries about being pregnant and renewals of contracts or complaints of performance due to multiple medical appointments, etc.