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To think friend was disrespectful

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Oldwoman70 Sun 23-Jan-22 13:21:12

A friend and I have been helping out an elderly man whilst his wife was in hospital for an operation (shopping, cooking etc.). His wife is now back home and fully recovered. As a thank you they offered to take us out for a meal (wouldn't take no for an answer).

When I called to collect my friend she had made no effort in her appearance (wearing same clothes as when I saw her earlier in the day). I had showered, changed and even put on make up (rare for me). I felt as this couple were being kind enough to take us for a meal, it was disrespectful not to make an effort with her appearance. What do other GNs think? I would add that whilst it wasn't an "up market" restaurant - it wasn't the local pub either

Hithere Sun 23-Jan-22 19:44:12

My clothes are always clean and washed as often as needed - I happen to have clothes that can be confused as the same item, very similar styles

I dress appropriately for the occasion without bells and whistles

Maybe it is what your friend does too.

Didn't you go to have lunch to a down to earth place anyway? Why be all fancy and stand out like a sore thumb?

If you do not value this friends as a person, do her a favour and let her have friends that appreciate her for who she is, not she looks like

Hithere Sun 23-Jan-22 19:46:06

Not for what she looks like

My cell had lunch with words

Hithere Sun 23-Jan-22 19:48:42

What I meant to say is drop this friendship or stop the judgement before she realizes it and friendship is impacted

Hetty58 Sun 23-Jan-22 19:49:53

Oldwoman70, I wouldn't want a 'friend' like you - who judged me on appearances - and found me wanting. What a bore! You felt the need to make an effort, she didn't, so what?

MissAdventure Sun 23-Jan-22 20:10:13

Well, that's you told, oldwoman.

Chewbacca Sun 23-Jan-22 21:04:33

grin grin grin indeed MissAdventure!

Bridgeit Sun 23-Jan-22 21:20:01

I have often wondered if some folks feel uncomfortable if they have arrived over dressed , what a strange species we are.
Maybe time for us all to careless either way. ??‍♂️

Beswitched Sun 23-Jan-22 21:28:24

I don't know why you're getting such a hard time OP. Yes it would have been polite of your friend to dress smartly when being treated to a meal out. Not the end of the world obviously, but it's polite to make an effort.

Hetty58 Sun 23-Jan-22 21:36:20

But then, of course, some of us are just blessed - and look wonderfully elegant - with no effort at all!

Ali08 Sun 23-Jan-22 21:38:25

Grandmabatty

You are being ridiculous. I'm sorry if you don't like the answer but really. She'd been in hospital and presumably was still recuperating. They were kind enough to take you for a meal and you think she's being disrespectful? Please give your head a wobble.

I'm sorry if I'm wrong, but I think that Oldwoman70 meant the friend who had helped her look after the ill lady's husband, not the wife, was the one who didn't smarten up!

I think she could have made a bit of an effort to put on something nice for going out, so no, I don't think OP is being unreasonable!!

Beckett Mon 24-Jan-22 07:14:16

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Dickens Mon 24-Jan-22 07:56:35

Beckett

Please can all of you piling on the OP please pray for them so they can be perfect like you

Oh come on! It's nothing to do with anyone on here thinking they are "perfect".

No one is "piling" on the OP. She asked a question - and presumably expected people to respond, which they did.

TBH, if you pose a question on AIBU, it's inevitable that you won't always get the answers you might hope to get.

Posters have acknowledged that she is obviously a kind person (I did too) - helping out an elderly man in need - but we think she's wrong regarding her attitude towards her friend. And said so. Which is the point of AIBU.

M0nica Mon 24-Jan-22 08:15:08

Your friend was being herself and this couple presumably know her as well as you do, so I doubt they would notice or think about it.

Had your friends dressed up for the occasion?

I can see nothing disrespectful in your friends behaviour. I suspect your feelings say more about you than they do about your friend.

Lucca Mon 24-Jan-22 08:37:18

Oldwoman70

Some of you seem to have misunderstood - the couple had dressed up, they rarely go out and this was special for them. My friend hadn't bothered to so much as change her sweater, she hadn't had a busy day (we had spent most of the afternoon chatting over coffee). I am not normally a "judgmental" person, accepting people for who and what they are but on this occasion I just felt she could have made a little effort.

Monica OP says the couple had dressed up.

OP may be being unreasonable but those saying she is being ridiculous are a bit OTT.
It wasn’t a “humble “ venue either as one poster suggested.

M0nica Mon 24-Jan-22 09:00:27

You have to take people as they are. Presumably it isn't a case where this lady would usually have made an effort, but didn't on this occasion, but how she dressed for everything.Perhaps she did not realise what was expected on an occasion like this, or just how nice the venue was..

You sound like my mother, who was always being upset by how her sister dressed, -a bit like your friend, I think. I could never see the point. My mother was always elegance itself, that was enough, her sister was dressing no differently to the way she had always dressed. The best thing to do is just ignore it.

You and your friend were true friends to your neighbours in their need and they are the kind of thoughtful people who appreciated all you had done and wanted to show their gratitude. I am sure you had a delicious meal in a lovely place, does it really matter that much if one of those being thanked for being a kind caring person dressed differently from the others?

Floriel Mon 24-Jan-22 09:01:53

I hope poor OP isn’t feeling too bruised today because I think this forum became increasingly hostile and judgemental. In fact it sums up what I dislike about GN. We may agree with her, as I did, or not, as most did, but please can’t we all be a bit kinder? Calling into question her personal friendship and taking the moral high ground about judging by appearances is unfair and unnecessary. At our age we should surely be more tolerant and supportive. Heaven knows life has thrown slings and arrows at most of us, we don’t need to throw them at each other.

MayBeMaw Mon 24-Jan-22 09:01:56

I’m not sure where respect comes into this.
Different people have different attitudes to what is “appropriate” dress and I don’t think a younger woman woukd have made the same correlation.
If your friend was not in dirty, torn or “inappropriate” clothes what is there to criticise?
Personally, I hate seeing women in “red carpet” dresses and their partners in jeans at “celebrity” events and decry the modern trend for men to go tie-less even in business dress.
But that is my personal opinion and really none of my business.
At the other end of the scale of course there is always the danger of doing a Hyacinth Bucket and seriously overdressing.

AmberSpyglass Mon 24-Jan-22 09:07:39

It’s nice that the older couple dressed up. But if they don’t go out often, that makes sense - clearly your friend does, so it’s not as much of an occasion for her, and she’d obviously made an effort when she met you earlier.

Beswitched Mon 24-Jan-22 09:12:57

I agree with Floriel.

You can disagree with posters respectfully, which many people on this thread have done.
But some posters have been unnecessarily rude and unpleasant in their replies and the thread seems to have turned into a bit of a pile on.

Franbern Mon 24-Jan-22 09:14:32

I am bewildered as to what was 'disrespectful'. Do you change your clothes to eat your normal evening meal?

Provided what you are wearing are clean and tidy, what on earth does it matter if you wore them earlier in the day also, or last week, last year.

Pity that the OP had coffee with this 'friend' earlier that afternoon, if she had not done so, she would not have known that she had not changed her clothes, etc.

Oldwoman70 Mon 24-Jan-22 09:22:29

OK so lets clear up a few things - this is a friend I have known since school days, she usually dresses up every time she goes out. I have since mentioned to her that perhaps she could have made more of an effort - and she agreed, she didn't explain why she didn't this time. I have shown her this thread - her comment? "Wow - why on earth do you belong to a forum where people are that nasty!"

Oldwoman70 Mon 24-Jan-22 09:24:04

I should add that she wasn't at all upset or offended - nor did she consider I was being "judgmental"

MayBeMaw Mon 24-Jan-22 09:27:18

It was presented as a very black/white image oldwoman and judgemental terms like “disrespectful” will occasion strong responses.
Perhaps your wording made the difference- your OP was very critical and I suspect that set the tone for some responses.
I do wonder why you needed confirmation of your opinion though and then to show it to your friend was like an extra stick to beat her with.
Honestly if any “friend” treated me like that, I would be very hurt and would no longer consider them my friend.

Oldwoman70 Mon 24-Jan-22 09:30:09

Obviously you don't have friends who you can be honest with and speak your mind! I can assure you she has said things to me which would probably have you clutching your pearls and fainting.

MayBeMaw Mon 24-Jan-22 09:33:14

I don’t clutch my peals or faint - no need to be abusive.