Thanks Bluebelle.🙂
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I genuinely felt upset and then angry at today's royal event in Edinburgh. How much of our money did it cost?
We have already had a fortune spent on the Queen's funeral and the King's coronation at a time when families
can't afford to feed their children and people are waiting for years for essential medical treatment. When the BBC commentator announced that the eyes of the world were on Scotland I had to turn off the TV.
Thanks Bluebelle.🙂
I thought it was lovely. Colourful and decidedly impressive. Noticed the 'Not my King' protesters were given a good airing and mention by the media. Wish the flypast had been restricted to blue and white as a nice gesture.
Even Nero gave bread with circuses. KC3 is happy to remove funds from the country that could go where it was needed in order to do what, exactly?
I feel almost sorry for him and QCC; it is as if they/he/courtiers feel that if they keep hitting us over the head with ceremonies we pay for but do not need that we will return to the era of believing in absolute monarchy.
I love all the pomp and ceremony. How many people that complain about such things enjoy going round National Trust properties etc. It upset me to see the protests in Edinburgh so soon after its inhabitants were so respectful of the late Queen lying in state. She loved Scotland so much and it’s sad that Scotland feels this way.
How is the King 'removing funds from us'? As previously stated everyone involved in the ceremony etc was already being paid anyway. They'll pay their taxes just like the rest of us.
Aveline
My DSiL and DGSs were there and loved it. I suppose the cost would be in salaries for the soldiers and bandsmen and police who are all paid anyway as their job. If such events didn't happen not a penny would filter down to those in need.
If such events didn't happen not a penny would filter down to those in need
Quite.
The money would go on a Presidential Occasion.
luluaugust
If this ceremony hadn't taken place that would have been wrong. It is all part of being British, Charles has a lot of Scottish blood. It is a small cost compared to what is spent by Presidents and Despots.
Can you explain the Scottish blood bit please I know he has lots of German blood ?
His grandmother was Scottish.
Floradora9
luluaugust
If this ceremony hadn't taken place that would have been wrong. It is all part of being British, Charles has a lot of Scottish blood. It is a small cost compared to what is spent by Presidents and Despots.
Can you explain the Scottish blood bit please I know he has lots of German blood ?
Mary, Queen of Scots, is his Great-great-great-great Grandmother
"How many people that complain about such things enjoy going round National Trust properties etc"
I do Maybelline. I'm a member of NT. Doesn't make me a monarchist.
I will repeat what I have probably said about 5 times on GN already.
The Coronation cost the equivalent of what the NHS costs to run in 5 hours.
So I will assume today's event cost the equivalent of about 1 hour?
Not that I agree or disagree with the op.
Just putting the money situation inot context.
an alternative view from a Scot who isn't a unionist/royalist
Its quite long but explains Scottish history '
I hope that some of you will read it.
To Whom the Crown Belongs
If you would rule a people, you must sit amongst them. The royals seem to be taking this piece of Machiavellian advice to heart of late. Today, we’re graced with a visit from King Charles. Together with assorted flunkies and a plethora of men in tights, Charles will perform an elaborate dance round the Honours of Scotland, which will involve touching, but not actually wearing them. They have even gone so far as to replace one of them. The original Scottish Sword of State, a gift from Pope Julius in 1507, will be substituted by a new sword called the Elizabeth Sword. The excuse given for this is that the old one is too fragile to use in ceremonies any longer. This is pretty rich coming from a country that uses a 700- year- old chair vandalised by choir boys, for coronations. Whatever happened to conservation?
So why so coy? Why is it that Charles will touch, but not actually wear the Scottish Crown? Why has our Sword of State been replaced? What is the actual point of this visit?
The answer is simple. Symbolism matters and presence matters. Charles is here because he is part of a performance to convince Scots that he is their King and that there is a union of crowns between England and Scotland. In actual fact there is no such thing. There is an English Crown and a Scottish Crown. The same person has worn both crowns from James VI up until Queen Anne; but they have never been united. The two Crowns are as far apart in nature as it is possible to imagine and since Queen Anne, only one Crown has been adhered and sworn to; the English Crown. And Charles and the UK government are terrified that at some point, the Scots will realise this. Hence the masquerade.
So what is the difference? It’s this. The English Crown invests the power of the (English state) in one person. Everything belongs to the monarch; the land, the people (subjects) and even the government (His Majesty’s government). Not only that, but it also belongs to his heirs. Every member of government has to swear an oath to Charles and his heirs in order for them to be allowed to sit in Parliament.
In Scotland it’s different. The Crown is not the possession of one person or one family. The Sovereign is not one person. The Sovereign is, in fact, the people. The monarch is simply the temporary caretaker of the Crown and can be overruled by the people. The Scots made this clear in the Declaration of Arbroath, the Claim of Right in 1689 and finally in the Scottish Accession oath where the monarch swears, ‘the rights and rents, with all just privileges of the Crown of Scotland, I shall preserve and keep inviolate, neither shall I transfer nor alienate the same.’ Translated, that means that the law, the land and the functions of state belong to the people; they are not to be acquired by others or changed.
To put this into a modern context; if Charles got beyond touching, took the Scottish oath and put the Scottish crown on his head, he would have to declare null and void all the claims made under the English Crown on Scottish territory. This would include North Sea oil and gas resources, all the land claimed under the King’s and Lord Treasurer’s Remembrancer (this is property and land titles for which an owner cannot be found and there’s a lot of them) and it would also make null and void the current freeports and potential plundering of resources in those areas. Finally, he would have to declare the Treaty of Union null and void, because it depends on the Claim of Right and the promises made by the monarch in the Accession Oath. For neither the government nor the monarch, nor any power in Scotland can be placed above the people. This is what the Scottish Crown means and to whom it belongs; the people.
That is why Charles will never put that crown on his head. And that is why he will never be our King. When he leaves St Giles today, he might reflect on the statue of his namesake, Charles II, which stands close by in Parliament Square. It was erected in 1685 and it’s a reminder of a betrayal. Many Scots fought for Charles against Cromwell because he was a Stuart and Scotland was occupied by thousands of Cromwell’s troops the length and breadth of Scotland in retaliation after the battle of Dunbar. The dismembered body of the Marquis of Montrose lies in a marble tomb in St Giles in testimony to that. During that time, the honours of Scotland and what they represented were hidden away. When Cromwell died and Charles was restored to the throne, he treated the Scots with the same disdain as Cromwell and maintained the system of forts that Cromwell had established. Four years after Charles death, the Scots had had enough, declared the Scottish throne vacant and re-iterated the sovereignty of the people through the Claim of Right in 1689. We could do it again. For we are the Crown, and we are sovereign.
As previously stated everyone involved in the ceremony etc was already being paid anyway
I don't think it ran into overtime either.
The crown, sceptre, robes etc are all second-hand too.
👑
And - you'd be doing this every four years for a President
(Don't believe it would be different- it wouldn't)
At least this is the first such occasion for 70 years therefore much more economical than having a President.
I love all the pomp and the rituals. Long live the King 🤴 and Queen 🫅
I enjoyed it very much. The music was terrific, and the whole event lent some colour to grey old Edinburgh.
The “Not my king” chants and banners were just examples of extremely bad manners. People have the right to their opinions, but this was not the time to air them. Just plain rude.
Just a point. King Charles is King of Scots, not King of Scotland.
I find it annoying that the BBC found it necessary to send a London-based presenter and presumably a crew when we have perfectly good presenters and crew working for BBC Scotland. Waste of licence money IMO. 
Charles' mother's mother was scottish.
you don't have to go back to mary queen of scots.
Wheniwasyourage
Just a point. King Charles is King of Scots, not King of Scotland.
I find it annoying that the BBC found it necessary to send a London-based presenter and presumably a crew when we have perfectly good presenters and crew working for BBC Scotland. Waste of licence money IMO.
They have a lot of staff who must be twiddling their thumbs after Glastonbury, Wheniwasyourage
Apparently the BBC sent 500 staff members there.
I’ve been wondering where we’d be now if Mary Queen of Scots had been successful in her aim to be the Queen of England, too….would England be trying to gain independence from Scotland? ( must apologise by the way: all the work on my house and lack of sleep is playing havoc with my thinking…even more so than usual that is…)
Oh- we missed that here. I love all the pomp stuff, great show. Must see if I can get some British tv.
Callistemon21
Floradora9
luluaugust
If this ceremony hadn't taken place that would have been wrong. It is all part of being British, Charles has a lot of Scottish blood. It is a small cost compared to what is spent by Presidents and Despots.
Can you explain the Scottish blood bit please I know he has lots of German blood ?
Mary, Queen of Scots, is his Great-great-great-great Grandmother
Interesting, I had no idea KC3 was a direct descendant of Mary Queen of Scots. But I think there should be at least a dozen (?) greats there.
Sadly though I'm fascinated by history, I find the RF an anachronism.
MayBee70
I’ve been wondering where we’d be now if Mary Queen of Scots had been successful in her aim to be the Queen of England, too….would England be trying to gain independence from Scotland? ( must apologise by the way: all the work on my house and lack of sleep is playing havoc with my thinking…even more so than usual that is…)
Well, her son became King of England and Scotland.
And Wales.
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