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More royal pomp and circumstance.

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vivvq Wed 05-Jul-23 16:07:12

I genuinely felt upset and then angry at today's royal event in Edinburgh. How much of our money did it cost?
We have already had a fortune spent on the Queen's funeral and the King's coronation at a time when families
can't afford to feed their children and people are waiting for years for essential medical treatment. When the BBC commentator announced that the eyes of the world were on Scotland I had to turn off the TV.

Callistemon21 Thu 06-Jul-23 12:21:15

Interesting, I had no idea KC3 was a direct descendant of Mary Queen of Scots. But I think there should be at least a dozen (?) greats there.

Possibly.

And, more interestingly, it is through the German line of the family!

Eloethan Thu 06-Jul-23 12:24:51

A total waste of money, and extremely inappropriate given the parlous state of the UK at the moment.

Plunger Thu 06-Jul-23 12:27:44

So shall we stop the State Opening of Parliament, cheese rolling downhill, local carnivals/ festivals, basically anything that might actually cost money to put on and be enjoyed by lots of people. What a miserable life to look forward to. What about all the money spent dealing with Stop Oil demonstrations preventing people getting to hospitals, funerals, work etc?

Dillonsgranma Thu 06-Jul-23 12:28:49

I do think that things could be done a lot more quietly and with less pomp and money thrown at it. It is very hard to watch these expensive ceremonies when counting the pennies at home. Can I afford washing powder?

Pollyj Thu 06-Jul-23 12:36:39

Totally agree. Let him pay if he wants all this. It’s also past time to do this ‘conqueror’s fealty’ stuff with the other countries. Outdated nonsense now, and the cost while so many other things apparently ‘can;t be afforded’ is absurd.

Pollyj Thu 06-Jul-23 12:38:30

Carnivals and festivals? We choose whether or not to pay to attend those and they are for ‘us’. None of the royal stuff is a choice or for ‘us’.

OhBeJoyful Thu 06-Jul-23 12:50:50

Well I think we're really lucky to be British! Our Monarchy, and the ceremonies that go with that, bring in a lot of income via tourism, and me a lot of pleasure! I think Charles is a really kindly king who has wisdom through age but is still open to new ideas to improve our world

Callistemon21 Thu 06-Jul-23 13:19:17

Pollyj

Totally agree. Let him pay if he wants all this. It’s also past time to do this ‘conqueror’s fealty’ stuff with the other countries. Outdated nonsense now, and the cost while so many other things apparently ‘can;t be afforded’ is absurd.

It's not particularly what he wants - it's ancient ceremonies and traditions that we do here in this country.

Why should a Head of State pay for his own inauguration?

Everythingstopsfortea Thu 06-Jul-23 13:22:54

Hear!Hear! OhBeJoyful….

Milest0ne Thu 06-Jul-23 13:49:03

How much money did overseas visitors spend in Scotland or London during the coronation event? A lot of people were able to earn money during that time. The monarchy is good advertising for the hospitality industry. How do you put a price on that?

Peaches7 Thu 06-Jul-23 14:13:34

I really enjoyed watching it on TV yesterday and think Scotland did a grand job,I just wish we could have heard more of the bagpipes without,the TV presenters talking over them,I watched with my hubby hoping it would jog some memory's for him as he loves anything to do with the Royal family,and we both love all the pomp

Everythingstopsfortea Thu 06-Jul-23 14:17:15

Another hear, hear, for PollyJ..and MilestOne…
Lighten up Grans…We should be celebrating all what our beautiful country has to offer and that includes our Royal Family…What family doesn’t have it’s faults? They provide a huge source of income to Britain and who can fault the Princes Trust and all the good work that the other working Royals do? So many of our friends living around the world remind us of how lucky we are. I love our history and our traditions. Each to their own. Just wish some of you weren’t so bitter and cutting…

nanna8 Thu 06-Jul-23 14:32:42

Agreed- very good for international relations,too. It makes the UK stand out because it is so very good at that sort of thing. Long may it continue!

multicolourswapshop Thu 06-Jul-23 14:38:33

What’s wrong with you V be afraid, be very afraid

multicolourswapshop Thu 06-Jul-23 14:41:47

King Charles has done so much for the Princess trust and many other charities give him peace to get on with the job royals are bringing in so much revenue to Great Britain
why grump about that?

Callistemon21 Thu 06-Jul-23 14:45:24

When the BBC commentator announced that the eyes of the world were on Scotland I had to turn off the TV

I don't dislike Scotland that much that I'd turn off the tv!! 😁

0ddOne Thu 06-Jul-23 14:50:30

In 2022 the monarchy cost the UK tax payer £85m (give or take), which is around 1p per person. In 2017 (the last available update as yet), the monarchy's contribution to the UK economy was £1.76 billion. So. I think a little extra spent on a bit of pomp and circumstance is well worth it, don't you? Also, King Charles personally contributes millions per year to various UK charities and good causes. People assume the monarchy just take a small fortune off the tax payer and that's it. That's not it. I'm not a big fan of Charles, I must admit (and definitely not of Camilla!), and would much prefer to have had the crown go directly to William, but it is what it is. They work hard for the country (Queen Elizabeth worked right up until 2 days before her death. Not many people are still working in their 90's). They may not do hard manual labour, but it will still be hard, and they get less and less recognition, and more and more abuse. I'm starting to feel ashamed to be British....

vivvq Thu 06-Jul-23 15:01:53

NI is an add-on. The full description is the United Kingdoom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Any coronation here would cause lots of problems given the volatile nature of our politics and the fact that we currently have no government. King Charles visited N1 and was proclaimed King here in the same way as Scotland and Wales.

vivvq Thu 06-Jul-23 15:15:05

Turning off the TV had nothing to do with Scotland, a country which I like a lot. It was the inane comment and the notion that all over the world people glued to their TV s. For the Queen's funeral yes, and maybe the coronation.

Skye17 Thu 06-Jul-23 15:19:10

European presidents cost more per head of population than our monarchy costs us. And they don't bring in tourism. Plus if we voted for a president every four years that would probably cause yet more division in the country.

I love the traditional ceremonies and their links to our history.

Batworthy Thu 06-Jul-23 15:21:04

The problem of 'damned if they do and damned if they don't' could very easily be solved by the Royals stepping down and living privately on their own considerable funds.
They are probably very nice people individually, but to the country they are simply unnecessary.
There's nothing wrong with the magnificent parades and colourful demonstrations of horsemanship - we all enjoy those, and they are valuable as a source of tourist interest, but the addition of some elderly royal personage in a posh horse and cart doesn't add much to the interest.
Other countries manage very well with more private Royal families, and at far less cost.
The Monarchy is an expensive anachronism which we can no longer afford or justify, and it only serves to further the gap between the 'haves' and the 'have nots'. Children are going hungry, the sick are not being cared for, and this imbalance needs to be redressed.
Whilst we're at it, the present government should also take a long walk off a short pier.

Aveline Thu 06-Jul-23 15:28:38

Did you not read the full financial position outlined by Oddone? Or do you just want to rant on.

Scottiebear Thu 06-Jul-23 15:31:28

As a Scot I'm delighted he carried on the tradition. I enjoy the pomp and ceremony. They give many people a much needed feel good boost.The royals are such a huge part of our countries histories, which I find fascinating. I think its a large part of what brings a lot of the tourists to the UK, particularly London. And these have been the first coronation ceremonies for a very long time. I know cost galls many, but I believe King Charles is making real efforts in paring down costs and royal working roles. And I doubt whether we would see our incomes improve even if the royalty were to be abolished.

Farzanah Thu 06-Jul-23 16:07:19

Grandma70s

The “Not my king” chants and banners were just examples of extremely bad manners. People have the right to their opinions, but this was not the time to air them. Just plain rude.

This was exactly the right time, and I was pleased to see that the Republicans were out peacefully protesting, and not ignored by the mainstream media either.
Not all of us agree with this expensive charade.

In this increasingly restrictive political atmosphere I’m not confident that any protests in public, peaceful or otherwise will be allowed very soon.

spabbygirl Thu 06-Jul-23 16:30:48

I so agree, the whole notion that one family are somehow different or special just because years ago one of the ancestors grabbed the throne is just crazy. That money could have been better spent elsewhere and if Will really wants to help homeless people his family have a few palaces they could rent out