Trans Teacher

There are no fixed points in science
I think you'll find that Professor Robert Winston, that eminent biologist and fertility expert will tell you that one fixed point in science is that you cannot change your sex. Are you more qualified than him to argue?

I have never seen you mention more research or funding Rosie and I have mentioned it many times on many threads... so why aren't you?

I am not determined to put anyone through transition.. I leave those decisions to trans people and the medical community...

However I have said many times that I would like to see less mistakes happen... so it seems I listen to you but the reverse is not true

Rosie51

^There are no fixed points in science^
I think you'll find that Professor Robert Winston, that eminent biologist and fertility expert will tell you that one fixed point in science is that you cannot change your sex. Are you more qualified than him to argue?

Nope

Are you qualified to peer review his research?

Besides, I have never said anyone can change sex, I simply accept trans women as women

VioletSky

Rosie51

There are no fixed points in science
I think you'll find that Professor Robert Winston, that eminent biologist and fertility expert will tell you that one fixed point in science is that you cannot change your sex. Are you more qualified than him to argue?

Nope

Are you qualified to peer review his research?

Besides, I have never said anyone can change sex, I simply accept trans women as women

No I'm not qualified to peer review his research 🤣🤣🤣 but many others are and agree with him. That question was just pure stupidity!

You said there are no fixed points in science I've just proved that's a lie unless you can prove people can change sex.

Resorting to rudeness gets you no points in discussion

There are no fixed points in science, there is always more to learn

We already know that XX and XY aren't all that exists, that's a fact

We now know that trans people are different at a genetic level

Also evolution is not a fixed point either... at one point life on earth was a single cell...

You could be a little more open minded, a good scientist is

It is inappropriate.

VioletSky

Rosie51

There are no fixed points in science
I think you'll find that Professor Robert Winston, that eminent biologist and fertility expert will tell you that one fixed point in science is that you cannot change your sex. Are you more qualified than him to argue?

Nope

Are you qualified to peer review his research?

Besides, I have never said anyone can change sex, I simply accept trans women as women

Are you qualified to peer review his research?

Rosie51 doesn't need to peer-review him, Professor Robert Winston has over 300 publications in peer-reviewed scientific journals!

His career in medical science spans over 50 years and he has held many high-status positions in various organisations and institutions, including Scientific Advisor to the WHO.

To casually suggest he could peer-reviewed by a lay member of the public is rather staggering!

It was actually humour based on previous comments but...

It obviously flew right over a few heads

VioletSky

It was actually humour based on previous comments but...

It obviously flew right over a few heads

Not over a few heads. It just landed like a stone.

I laughed

VioletSky

Every trans thread still exists.

Everything you’ve said still exists in whatever persons but
VS vs
Mollygo again, that doesn't mean it isn't the right treatment for the right people...

Did I say that it wasn’t?
Can you show me where I said that or are you just nitpicking?

The problem is that it is impossible to find the evidence for something unless you first accept the probability that that evidence might exist.
One area this was absolutely evident in is dyslexia.
It was widely questioned and condemned as being non-existent, an excuse for middle class parents, the result of bad teaching and lazy children and many other factors. Those of us with dyslexic children knew it was real. I was so pleased when I met a young woman in the late 1980s who had been involved in the research. Neuroimaging gave real evidence of the dyslexic brain.

Eventually if enough research is conducted I'm sure there will emerge real information about trans people and they will be validated.

In the meantime suggesting that a male teacher can't wear a skirt because of some sort of prejudice you hold about transgender people, the policies schools adopt to safeguard and protect transgender children, and a strange belief that teachers are somehow sexually stimulated when they are working, is just plain ridiculous. And plainly just an excuse for prejudice.

Instead of making hilarious jokes, VS would you like to address the point about the skirt existing in a context, rather than simply as a garment?

Mollygo I am making a statement

Either agree or disagree

Nothing else needed or wanted

Doodledog

Instead of making hilarious jokes, VS would you like to address the point about the skirt existing in a context, rather than simply as a garment?

doodledog it is a skirt wherever it is on whom ever it is

Also glad it tickled you doodledog I need a distraction from the utter pit of misery and moaning these threads become

VS
Besides, I have never said anyone can change sex, I simply accept trans women as women.

I don’t need to ask what you mean by that.

Males who claim female rights to safe spaces or sporting achievements by changing the noun to imply they are female are cheats and liars.

If you’re happy for them to do that then that’s your decision.

Fortunately most females are still more concerned with the safety and sporting fairness for females than TW and their fans.

It may be that there will be a reason found for the exponential rise in the number of children claiming to be 'in the wrong gender', but the fact that research has shown Dyslexia to be a genuine condition is not connected in any way, and illuminates nothing about trans issues. It is a false equivalence.

You actually know I respect the equality act and women's safe spaces, why pretend otherwise?

How is it that I, an autistic person, am the most emotionally intelligent person on these threads?

VioletSky

Doodledog

Instead of making hilarious jokes, VS would you like to address the point about the skirt existing in a context, rather than simply as a garment?

doodledog it is a skirt wherever it is on whom ever it is

It is indeed. But a male teacher wearing one in the context of primary schools having drag queens reading stories and illustrations of men in bondage gear in library books etc etc puts the skirt into a different context that is different from the norm, which is really all most people are saying.

No need for two differences in that post

VioletSky

You actually know I respect the equality act and women's safe spaces, why pretend otherwise?

How is it that I, an autistic person, am the most emotionally intelligent person on these threads?

IYO VS, and possibly in others’ opinions. Fortunately I know plenty of people who demonstrate more emotional intelligence than you and they don’t feel the need to vs about it.
Explain how you accept TW as women but respect female safe spaces. How do you make that work when a TW (quite obviously male) demands admission to female changing rooms, toilets etc.
What does your acceptance of TW as women mean then?

No it doesn't doodledog

It is just a skirt

I have seen boys at school now with Alice bands and hair clips... they aren't questioning their gender, they are just claiming a fashion item for themselves...

Down with gender norms, something you claim to want until a man does it

You dont need peer reviews when you can watch something on tik tok.
I can do jokes too.

VioletSky

Resorting to rudeness gets you no points in discussion

There are no fixed points in science, there is always more to learn

We already know that XX and XY aren't all that exists, that's a fact

We now know that trans people are different at a genetic level

Also evolution is not a fixed point either... at one point life on earth was a single cell...

You could be a little more open minded, a good scientist is

Resorting to rudeness gets you no points in discussion
Quotes from VS

This thread started out bonkers and fact free and continued to be bonkers and fact free

Except glorianny who speaks sense

and

Any self respecting person would have said "whoops bye" the first time it was pointed out and listened to the many many women on the first goes who do not care if a man wears a skirt because it's just a skirt, not a political statement

Obviously VioletSky's interpretation of polite respectful posts!

It is not proven transpeople are different at a genetic level, it is supposition. But let's assume you're correct. How wonderful, we can now ascertain who is genuine trans and who isn't. What a win that will be.

XX and XY are not the only sex markers, but the variants only occur to either males or females never to both, there is no third, fourth, fifth sex. Open minded can be good, but not so open your brains fall out, to paraphrase Magdalen Berns.