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Am I wrong to think this is rude ?

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Gangan2 Sat 28-Oct-23 02:22:11

I have fairly recently moved into a terraced house and although happy with the move I am struggling with a situation which occurs quite regularly. My neighbours either side of me have been lovely and made me feel very welcome in many ways and genuinely wouldn't want to upset them but they have one habit which makes me uncomfortable.
They have known each other for quite a few years and obviously have a strong friendship which is lovely and catch up with each other most days. My problem is that their catch up is sometimes over the garden fence (we have very low fencing between our gardens) and because I am in between their houses the conversation takes place across my garden if that makes sense? During the day I don't have an issue with this but of an evening I find it a bit of an invasion of my privacy, especially if I have had my shower etc and want to cook my dinner. I feel that I have to get dressed again etc as my kitchen window and glass backdoor is right where they stand either side leaning over their fences talking. I like to have my door open when the weather was nice but feel the need to close it when they are there and now it's dark early their constant movement brings my floodlight on so I am totally illuminated inside and out if that makes sense? Their voices are also quite loud ( because of the distance between them) and I can't hear anything that I may be listening to whilst cooking etc or having a phone conversation. This can go on for 30 minutes or more before they go back inside.
I have absolutely no issues if its during the day and I am around and we all tend to join in chatting as we pass etc. Which is lovely and I couldn't bare to fallout with either of side as they are such good neighbours apart from this habit and I can't stand atmospheres!
I am a very social person but I just feel a bit invaded by this of an evening. AIBU? Or do I need to stop being a grump ?

NotSpaghetti Sat 28-Oct-23 02:38:50

I think.this is quite common to be honest.
It was actually a reason why my daughter ruled out a house when she was buying a terrace last year. She arrived to second view as a conversation was in mid flow.

I think I would go on leaving my door open but maybe have a net over it at least (or a curtain/blind in the winter).

If there's a floodlight outside how does it illuminate you?

One of my other daughters has a big window that people can easily look in. She didn't want blinds/nets so has put sticky film on her window up to about chest height. This means she can look out but it's awkward for people to look in because of the height/angle of the surrounding land.
Maybe that's something you could consider?

Another option is to go out and join in.
Maybe that would work for all of you!

Gangan2 Sat 28-Oct-23 02:53:26

NotSpaghetti

I think.this is quite common to be honest.
It was actually a reason why my daughter ruled out a house when she was buying a terrace last year. She arrived to second view as a conversation was in mid flow.

I think I would go on leaving my door open but maybe have a net over it at least (or a curtain/blind in the winter).

If there's a floodlight outside how does it illuminate you?

One of my other daughters has a big window that people can easily look in. She didn't want blinds/nets so has put sticky film on her window up to about chest height. This means she can look out but it's awkward for people to look in because of the height/angle of the surrounding land.
Maybe that's something you could consider?

Another option is to go out and join in.
Maybe that would work for all of you!

I have to admit I never thought about it before moving in . I think it is something that they started during lockdown possibly.
I do go out and join in quite often but if I have had my evening shower etc I would feel I needed to get fully dressed again.
You are right, I may have to put something up to the glass maybe unfortunately.

Coolgran65 Sat 28-Oct-23 06:44:48

Sticky film or a blind sounds good.
I wouldn't worry about being in my dressing gown. Just chat on regardless (if you want to) for a few minutes with a friendly quip....right ladies, I'm going in now, I hope you're winding up soon cos is like some quiet.

Oopsadaisy1 Sat 28-Oct-23 06:47:32

Coolgran65

Sticky film or a blind sounds good.
I wouldn't worry about being in my dressing gown. Just chat on regardless (if you want to) for a few minutes with a friendly quip....right ladies, I'm going in now, I hope you're winding up soon cos is like some quiet.

That sounds like a good plan

loopyloo Sat 28-Oct-23 06:51:17

For a while, I would switch off the security lighting in the evenings and hope as the weather deteriorates they might stop.
Also I might go out there and do some chores and walk between them pointedly. Just enough to make them feel awkward.
Reclaim your space.
Best wishes.
Best of luck.

BlueBelle Sat 28-Oct-23 06:58:17

Oh turn your floodlights off while they are outside and put them on when they go in Surely they won’t want to talk in the dark and cold or wet
It’s a problem because you don’t want to alienate them if it was people you didn’t like I d suggest higher fencing but that would lead to bad feeling which you don’t want if they re nice people

lemsip Sat 28-Oct-23 07:09:16

that must be why the house became available.!

Sara1954 Sat 28-Oct-23 07:26:14

I was in exactly the same situation many years ago in our first house.
I would be outside with the children, and they would talk straight across me, not just for a few words, but for whole long conversations, it was as if I wasn’t there.
Yes it’s very rude, but without risking ill feelings, I don’t know what you can do.

Smileless2012 Sat 28-Oct-23 08:54:05

I think it's rude too and am surprised that anyone would do this, especially if a conversation takes place when you're in your garden.

MerylStreep Sat 28-Oct-23 09:02:36

Oh dear 😱 you could be talking about our very friendly small close.
Just be grateful you have friendly neighbours.

FindingNemo15 Sat 28-Oct-23 09:10:50

My DD bought some roller blinds from Ikea. She can see out, but they cannot see in unless you have your lights on.

I would hate it and yes it is rude.

henetha Sat 28-Oct-23 10:14:52

That would really bug me. I do like my privacy.

Granmarderby10 Sat 28-Oct-23 10:24:49

The “sticky film” is actually much nicer than it sounds. There are many different designs from subtle to elaborate. Look online.

Luckygirl3 Sat 28-Oct-23 10:32:29

Pop out and join in the chat? You may find you enjoy it; but if not it might put them off doing it!

MiniMoon Sat 28-Oct-23 10:39:00

My DD lives a house that is a little lower than the street. People passing by can look straight in to her kitchen. She bought some privacy film (the frosted glass design) which allows light in.
As for the conversation across your garden, Winter is coming, the clocks go back tonight so perhaps that will stop until Spring.

pascal30 Sat 28-Oct-23 10:40:41

could you plant something on one side maybe like a bamboo so they have to move further down the garden.. and put a venetian blind on the window.. definitely turn off the light.. and just slip on a simple dress after your shower

merlotgran Sat 28-Oct-23 12:03:13

You could add trellis to whichever fence is yours and grow something up it. It wouldn’t be a solid barrier but would impede their vision of each other and might put them off.

Theexwife Sat 28-Oct-23 12:17:21

If it is only half an hour when the weather is ok then it is probably something you will have to get used to, weighed up against the rest of the time when you want to socialise with them it isn’t that bad.

RosiesMaw Sat 28-Oct-23 12:26:03

I'm not sure I have the confidence but you could just invite yourself to join in. If they don't want you to, they'll quickly reschedule for one of their houses or alternatively wou might be very welcome.
Personally I DO think it is rude to talk across somebody else's space whether garden or even in a pub or cafe but for the sake of being friends with your neighbours and if you have the "brass neck" -give it a go. Have your shower 45 minutes later.

NotSpaghetti Sat 28-Oct-23 12:27:53

On our visit (my daughter and I) to the house she nearly bought they were really chatty to each other (and us).
They were friendly and welcoming but it was obvious that they did this a lot.

To get any privacy in the garden you really had to go way beyond them to where the previous owner had put up a shed!

I think you have to find a way yo cope with it unfortunately.

Why does your outside light illuminate you inside though?
I think it could be angled differently which may help?

Putting up a trellis may push them further down a bit but I wouldn't do it without saying something like " I love it here but I do wish I had something pretty climbing up outside the kitchen window - would it interfere with your chatting to X if I did this - would you be happy chatting a bit further down? "

Good luck.
At least they are welcoming and friendly.
flowers

merlotgran Sat 28-Oct-23 13:05:02

I’m reading this thread with interest because at long last the bungalow I’m attached to has finally sold! It needs a lot doing to it so has been on the market for two years!

The fence between us is mine and is low enough to chat over. It was almost new when I inherited it so, with nobody living there, I have left it alone. I’m going to wait until the new owners move in before doing anything.

I’m hoping they will employ a friendly builder to do all the work and I’ll be able to ‘do a deal’ 😉

Dickens Sat 28-Oct-23 13:15:26

Well I think it's bad manners, and you are not being unreasonable in finding it intrusive.

However, the age old problem of not falling out with nice neighbours,,,

How about a radio in your kitchen - some loud-ish music (Classic FM?) might drown out their chatter, or even drive them to visit each other instead?

welbeck Sat 28-Oct-23 13:25:44

why would you have to get fully dressed after your bath ?
just go around and about as you normally would, perhaps a large towel, with dripping hair.
it's your garden, your house, reclaim your space.
good luck.

NotSpaghetti Sat 28-Oct-23 14:09:34

merlotgran I think now is the time to raise the fence if you can - even if you only do it near the house.
Once someone moves in it's rather pointed!

Our neighbours put taller panels in when their other next door neighbour put the house up for sale.
I know they are pleased as although the new people are lovely people they do have huge numbers of relatives who are in the garden all summer it seems.