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ExtravertvIntrovert Thu 19-Oct-17 13:42:40

Do you find it difficult to have a relationship with your grandchildren? Does your introverted nature make this harder? What about with your children? Do you find it difficult to tell or show them that you love them?

I have had a major falling out with my mother (71). She is an introvert and I (44) am an extrovert. I have spent my entire life feeling emotionally neglected by my mother as she has never managed to demonstrate her love to me. In fact, she tends to criticise readily but never expresses pride in anything I achieve, joy for me or just happiness of any kind. She is also completely disinterested in my children. She sees the negative in everything.

After she sent me a particularly horrid email (telling me how I was damaging my children and how my actions may lead them to suicide - my actions being that I want to go away for three weeks on an adventure challenge leaving my 12 and 13 year olds with their father), I'd had enough. So I wrote her an email telling her how hurt I had been for years about her emotional unavailability and lack of interest in my life (except for criticism).

She responded by saying 'I know I'm not what you want as a mother. We are just so diametrically opposed in nature. You are an extrovert and I am a total introvert. I do not have the nature to make an effusive fuss of the things you achieve.' She then proceeded on three paragraphs of guilt tripping why everything that has happened in our relationship is my fault for failing to understand her introverted nature.

For the record, I never asked for a fuss to be made, just a basic polite acknowledgement would be nice.

But do I just not understand introverts enough. Is this typical behaviour or does it sound like she has other issues going on?

M0nica Sat 21-Oct-17 15:55:03

marfin, you have to do the hardest thing of all. Stand up to your daughter. Tell her how much care you can cope with providing, given your medical condition and then ignore all her rants and shouting and phone blocking.

Remember the ball is in your court. You are paying for her car, car insurance and telephone. As a last resort the continued payment of these could be made conditional on her good behaviour.

M0nica Sat 21-Oct-17 15:56:44

accidentally posted too soon. Last sentence:
Apart from your love for your grandchildren and daughter. She needs and is dependent on you. You are not dependent on her.

KirbyGirl Sat 21-Oct-17 16:05:18

I used to think I was uniquely unlucky with my mother but now see that she seemed typical of her era. Thanks Gransnetters. My mother was a hypercritical narcissist and I went on to marry another! I wonder if that is typical. I could write a very long post about all the awful things she said and did and about my poor old Dad who had a dog's life, but I won't.

It was a great struggle bringing up my children as I didn't really know what to do. I had to learn from scratch how to be a loving mother, or really, just a normal ordinary mother. Happily my children are splendid parents and the gcs naturally all wonderful. The chain can be broken.

Jane10 Sat 21-Oct-17 16:10:48

I agree KirkbyGirl. These mothers can demonstrate how not to parent. We can learn from that.
The chain can be broken.

angie95 Sat 21-Oct-17 21:08:35

My mother was the same, she was never happy with anything I did, nor was my father, I was introduced to my father's family in this way : " This is Tony the arty one, this is Samantha the pretty one and that's Angie the Geek"! I found it so hurtful, I cried myself to sleep so many tines. My mother was a control freek, she had to be right, I spent so many years trying to please them, then I met my now hubby, had two children (who I love equally) I would do anything for them, and they would do the same for me. I ended up going for counselling, and it helped, I now realise they were the ones with the problem(my mother died eight years ago and I no longer speak to my dad) not me. So please Extrovertintrovert. DO NOT FEEL as if you have anything to feel sorry for, don't waste anymore time on someone who makes you feel so bad, you are worth so much than that, you are a good person. Hugs xx

Tricia1951 Sat 21-Oct-17 21:59:18

I'm an introvert and totally agree with everything Alima says.

wellingtonpie Sun 22-Oct-17 06:02:03

My mother always tried to control my and my sister's lives when we grew up. She was a good mum when we were children. But as adults she she was awful. I have three girl's. She was a good Nanny until they went to visit my Dad who lived in Scotland. When they returned she wouldn't see them , they were 10,8 and 6, end didn't understand her st all. In the end she didn't see them again. She died ten years later.

anniegold195 Sun 22-Oct-17 15:30:52

Extravert. I had a similar relationship with my mother. she could only critizise never praise and everything I did in my life was wrong. When I was 21 - yes 21 - I discovered I was illegitemate and my brother and sister were half and my dad, who I loved, wasnt my real dad.

I had already left home by that stage (at 17) and carved a happy and contented life away from her domineering. She was the opposite of your mother - she was a professional extrovert and demanded attention from all who knew her. Even her family disowned her eventually but they accepted me into their fold.

I am now a 77 yr old g.g.mother, a loving husband of almost 53 years and a caring family of whom I am so proud as ironically my mother did me a huge favour, although it certainly didnt seem it at the time, because I promised myself I would never live my life the way she had.

I went to her funeral in 2004 and made my peace with her but in reality it should have been the other way around.

So do what I did - cut all ties - and lead the life you wish to lead.

Lili2 Sun 22-Oct-17 19:30:44

I think we need to talk openly about not getting on with our mothers and indeed not loving them.. It is a taboo.... I too took years to realise that my mother was a bitch and a narcissist. Nothing would ever please her and never got support or any love really. Was not really wanted either!
I suffered hugely and left when I was 18 but it was all within me. and my fault of course....I was never free of her from inside myself. This is not our fault but theirs.... and we must not suffer in silence and be ashamed.....

keffie Mon 23-Oct-17 02:28:33

Youe mom maybe introverted however that is not the behaviour or an introvert. That is the behaviour of a woman with issues who is seriously messed up.

Your Mom is selfish, dramatic and an arch manipulater who doesn't think you should have a life outside of your family.

She is emotional abusive, vindictive and spiteful. This is either because she is jealous of you or/and thinks you should live a life based at home.

I am sociable yet introverted. I prefer to be at home and surrounded by family.

I am not like your mom who quite frankly doesn't sound a nice person yet I am introverted. I think you need to revise that your mom is really not a nice person and yes it's hard

Dottyw Mon 23-Oct-17 07:10:54

We have always tip toed around her youngest daughter since her teens as her behaviour, anger and disrespect for the family makes life unpleasant. Everything we say is twisted so we're even scared to speak. I am an unpaid nanny to their little girl who we adore. We take her to little groups and give her much love and undivided attention. Our daughter however finds fault in everything we do and we cannot say anything because if we do, she threatens to not allow us to see our little grand daughter which is unbelievably distressing for us. If she says jump, we jump. Her behaviour is also affecting our eldest daughter who worries for our health. Why do this generation use children as weapons against us? And how can we stand up to her without losing our grand daughter?

sprite66 Mon 23-Oct-17 11:02:52

I think calling this an introvert/extrovert clash is misleading. My mother was on occasions unpleasantly critical whilst she prided herself on her tact with others. A funny example was when going together to a social do and wearing a new shrug knitted in a fluffy yarn I was greeted with the words "you look like King Kong!
My mother told me she resented the close rapport I had with my father.I wonder if your mother could be jealous of you in some way?

Madgran77 Wed 25-Oct-17 13:33:15

I think "introvert" is just an excuse for being hurtful and unkind. I did not have this with my mother but with someone who looked after me for quite a long time as a child as my parents were abroad ...it was an impossible difficulty to deal with because I honestly think she was probably desperately unhappy and damaged herself (as a child) ...I gave up in the end but I know this is different than giving up on your Mum!

Madgran77 Wed 25-Oct-17 15:02:42

...When I say "introvert is just an excuse" I mean in relation to your mother, not in relation to all introverts! Sorry, not expressed well!