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husband swore in front of dil and grandson

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PINKY57 Tue 29-Jan-19 21:35:22

My husband had too much to drink the other day and said to my son that my grandson was hyper -he is only 9 months old and that he should teach him how to behave,- the argument escalated and they were both swearing at each other. my dil said to me the following day that she does not want her son exposed to such language, I am scared she will keep him away from me and not come to our house,

muffinthemoo Thu 31-Jan-19 15:59:14

Arrange to see your grandson at your DIL's home.

A nine month old cannot be brought round to visit someone who gets pished and starts cursing up a storm at the baby and his father.

You make arrangements to see the baby, without your husband tagging along, at your DIL's house. I think this will solve the problem re the baby.

The problem re your husband is that he clearly finds this behaviour completely acceptable to inflict on his family. I echo those posters above who are suggesting culturally sensitive helplines.

Good luck.

grandtanteJE65 Thu 31-Jan-19 15:51:52

Too much to drink is always a problem, irrespective of the culture you belong to.

My knowledge of Asian cultures leads me to believe that your DIL will have been brought up to respect you, so in your place I would invite her for a cup of tea or coffee someplace in town with the baby. Tell her then that you don't like the thought of a child being exposed to drunk adults or swearing. Perhaps the two of you together can get your menfolk to behave better!

A quiet word on your own to your son might help too.

Tangerine Wed 30-Jan-19 20:09:49

Sounds as if your husband started it but your son seems to be to blame as well.

I do feel sorry for you and hope all turns out well.

agnurse Wed 30-Jan-19 19:10:34

A 9-month-old baby isn't really capable of being "hyper". You can't really discipline a child that young with any degree of success.

I can completely understand your DIL not wanting her child around someone who has too much to drink and swears at him.

As PPs have said, I suspect there could well be more to this story.

If you want to see your GS, you may find it easier to see him at DS and DIL's house without your husband present.

Bibbity Wed 30-Jan-19 19:08:42

Your son and daughter were right to remove themselves and their baby from your house.

They would be right to not step a foot back in there again.

Your husband is the massive problem here so stop trying to vilify your daughter in law who sounds like she has her child’s best interests at heart.

Your son may decide he can have a healthy relationship with you separate from your husband.

Or he may decide that your are to enmeshed with him. Especially if you keep trying to blame your DIL.

You have decisions to make.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 30-Jan-19 10:04:45

PINKY57, sorry this must be very upsetting for you.

I think the alcohol consumption is more the problem than bad language use.

Is is possible for you to see your son and his family without your husband?

Please try to keep the communications open between you and your daughter-in-law.

Take care of yourself.

Cold Wed 30-Jan-19 10:01:24

It sounds as though the problem started when your DH was aggressive towards a 9 month old - what on earth did your DH mean by "teach him how to behave"? That sounds like a threat of violence/hitting to me and I would not expose by baby to that.

Your husband behaved appallingly and I would not blame DIL for not wanting to be around that. Has he sincerely apologised? Can you go to see the baby without your husband?

notanan2 Wed 30-Jan-19 09:47:40

Google brings up several Asian Domestic Abuse helplines, some are regional and others are religion specific so dont know which applies to you, but please give one a call, you could do it confidentially, because it sounds like you are under a lot of emotional strain x

eazybee Wed 30-Jan-19 09:41:59

You can't blame your daughter in law for refusing to bring her child to your house, in view of his grandfather's appalling behaviour.
Focus on maintaining your relationship with her and your son and visit them in their house, without your husband. Above all, you don't want to risk exposing your grandson to another drunken tirade.

notanan2 Wed 30-Jan-19 09:28:33

There are two issues here:

1. The grandchild. Offer to visit them alone, accept that your home environment does not sound suitable for a child.

2. You sound like you are in an abusive relationship. I can't begin to offer solutions for how you can reconcile your cultural restraints with keeping yourself emotionally safe. Counselling wont work because it is not you who is causing the problem. Can you seek out a domestic abuse service/support that is targeted specifically at Asian women?

megan123 Wed 30-Jan-19 09:16:21

Absolutely right Ella. I grew up with it.

EllanVannin Wed 30-Jan-19 09:04:16

The Demon drink strikes again.
Unless they both curb their drinking it'll just go on and will escalate as the years go by. It has to be nipped in the bud if they can't hold their drink.

megan123 Wed 30-Jan-19 08:47:15

I am so sorry Pinky to hear what happened. Drink is the ruination of so much. As others have suggested I would speak with your son and daughter in law, you still need contact with your darling grandson.

Good luck with everything.

PINKY57 Wed 30-Jan-19 08:40:25

Thank youAnja ,yes my son knows what his dad is like,I will have a long chat with him and dil.I told Dh I will never forgive if dil stops me seeing my grandson.
And

Anja Wed 30-Jan-19 07:40:56

Seek out your son and DiL and have a good heart-to-heart with them. Perhaps you can arrange to see them mainly when your husband isn’t around or/and at their house?

I’m sure your son knows what his father is like so unless this was a one-off you need to talk to him,

BlueBelle Wed 30-Jan-19 07:00:12

I think DolceLatte is right Pinky I would think there is much more to this story than what your original post suggests
Are you in an abusive relationship ? are you living with an alcoholic? Has it always been like this? Do your husband and son get on usually?
Hopefully this will blow over but don’t please stay if your marriage is abusive no matter where you come from
Good luck

Dolcelatte Wed 30-Jan-19 05:17:27

It sounds as though you have the biggest problem Pinky if you are living with someone who behaves in such a way that you have had to have counselling. It clearly wasn't a one off and from what you've said about his behaviour it sounds as though you may be in an abusive relationship. You don't have to put up with it, regardless of your religion. I would advise you to seek advice from both Women's Aid and a solicitor and take steps to put things right, maybe by joint counselling with your husband to try to see if the marriage can be fixed but, if not or if he won't engage, then take steps to institute separation (maybe divorce later but the main thing is to get yourself out of the current situation).

I know it will be hard but think what is at stake - the risk of losing your grandson and any other future grandchildren.

Have courage, don't be a martyr, you can do it. It will be hard but so worth it.

gmelon Wed 30-Jan-19 02:52:22

Try and quietly put this behind you. Tread carefully towards your goal of a relationship with your DIL and GC
Advice can be had from helplines no matter who we are culturally or our religion.
Your daughter in law may need you more than you realise. Be there for her.

PINKY57 Wed 30-Jan-19 00:52:48

I really hope so

Tartlet Wed 30-Jan-19 00:30:10

Pinky, would it be possible for you to still have a relationship with your daughter in law and grandson even if there are issues between your husband and son?

mumofmadboys Wed 30-Jan-19 00:00:06

Sorry to hear of your problems Pinky. Would your DH apologise to your DIL for his behaviour if you asked him to?

Jalima1108 Tue 29-Jan-19 23:32:40

I wouldn't want someone 'drinking too much' in front of a small child either, not to the extent that he cannot control what he says - in fact both of them.

Perhaps you and your DIL should ignore both the men and their swearing and continue to meet with the baby on your own.
Or is it time you and she both stood up to these men?

MissAdventure Tue 29-Jan-19 22:46:04

Have you spoken to your son, since, pinky?

PINKY57 Tue 29-Jan-19 22:43:48

I have managed so far with lots of counselling,but have now decided I can’t take any more,I need to explain I am Asian and divorce does not happen in our culture and I have stayed because of my son,but I will not allow him to spoil my relationship with my dil.of course I defended the baby.

notanan2 Tue 29-Jan-19 22:33:43

Did you intervene at all? If you appeared to condone and didnt defend your nine MONTH old grandson then maybe she will assume you and your DH are in the same boat on this.

It really depends on how you reacted IMO. In defence of the GC or the drunk horrible DH or not at all.

P.s. his attitude to a vulnerable little 9 month old is so horrible OP that it makes me worried for you? How do you manage living with such a vile volatile man?