So, GN members, what do you think of this!

crimpedhalo I was literally just about to type that! I think it sums things up in a nutshell.

Armynanny, thank you, that's made the rules so much clearer! No doubt, someone will now post that there's nowt funny about the Cv situation and no, there's not. But humour and laughter are very important in my life (I'm another who has had several bouts of severe depression), so this made a fine start to my day.

Gosh, this one will run and run, won’t it? I’m slightly worried about Teacheranne who hasn’t been out of her house since March 23rd apart from two trips to the shops despite not being in a vulnerable group. There is no reason at all why she can’t do some daily exercise and chat to neighbours two metres apart and both these activities help improve mood.
Just to get things into perspective, the Government is pleased with the way the majority have followed the instructions - they never expected it of us, apparently - and community infection is on a downward curve.
I read yesterday that the police have had updated guidance about dealing with infringements and now it’s acceptable (to them anyway) to pop into a shop during one’s daily exercise to ‘top up’ on both essentials and non-essentials, e.g. buying a paper and a pint of milk.
Just saying!

I know grannydarkhair. I appreciate too that there’s nothing funny about it and I feel for everyone affected by it. I just think we all have to try and do our bit to cut down the risk of us and anyone else getting it as much as humanly possible. I can see a slow exit from lockdown taking place and genuinely believe there are some really intelligent people out there who will get a vaccine against this sorted out but of course this will take time. Stay safe

It amazes me that people just can't get it, that lockdown includes them! Every outing is a potential risk to everybody!
Only until these STUPID people are directly affected will they then realise what this is all about!
It anger's me when the majority of sensible folk are doing their bit whilst others go out and about willy-nilly!!! They are the health hazard!!

There is no excuse for this. I would love to see my grandchildren, but I feel fortunate that we have facetime and are able to chat to them. Imagine how awful this situation would be without the internet!!

Kate54 I was rather concerned about Teacheranne too

Teacheranne have you had a letter from your Government advising you not to leave your home? It is hard, I admit, but even so it's possible to chat to neighbours from a distance, unless you are hard of hearing. I know that could make isolation more difficult.

This is the form to use to notify the police if you see this sort of thing. Whether you use it is up to you!

www.police.uk/tua/tell-us-about/c19/tell-us-about-possible-breach-coronavirus-measures/

We can't change the behaviour of other people, no matter how much we disagree with them and what they're doing. We can only manage our own behaviour.

I think its wrong, but on the other hand if the three of them live together then I am guessing that they're either all fine or all have it so three going is no worse than one iyswim

Even with the best efforts of everyone to social distance I cannot see how this will stop a virus spreading through the entire population i.e. every item on supermarket shelves has come into close contact with people, same with all items delivered to the elderly and vulnerable and all prescriptions. Also every door handle we touch when out shopping etc. Surely it is a completely futile exercise. How much more harmful that so many people are suffering the distress of social isolation.... prisons have always been reluctant to put offenders in solitary confinement due to the negative effects on mental health and yet this is now being inflicted on many elderly people 'for their own good'.

ArmyNanny, many a true word, eh!

Technology has made it possible to make contact with one another without physically being there. How then do those like myself manage to visit my family and they visit me, twenty four seven, when they live four thousand miles away? I can be in my family's home , they mine, at the touch of a button so why put lives at risk as some are doing with a 'must go visit and give my GC a kiss and cuddle..
We cannot hope to eliminate this virus when people are blatantly going against advice to satisfy their own selfish needs. What's wrong with using the phone if what I have commented on 'not for everyone'The longer the me, me me in our society continue with their actions the longer it will take for us all to get back to life before 'corona'

They are mixing households - that is the issue Riggie. Three times the chance of passing on the virus - one of them could be asymptomatic and transmit the virus unknowingly to the other household, who then could unknowingly transmit to another household if they mix with others and so on and on and on and on...

Why is this so hard for people to understand? I genuinely don’t get it.

And into a care home
Where is that other chart, showing how one person can infect thousands?

I can't do a link on this device. Perhaps that should be my task for today.

Is it the one I posted yesterday Callistemon?

People just do not seem to understand. The local radio stations in the North have all gone into one at night for the past few weeks. More of a talk show with people ringing in with their questions, complaints etc,

It really is amazing the things that people are still doing and when the presenter tells them that is wrong most of them can't understand or the odd one thinks it doesn't apply to him...Last night a man phoned in to thank his new neighbour for her kindness. During the course of this conversation he mentioned how nice it was to see the children out playing in the street now that there so few cars! The presenter asked was it the children from next door? Oh no it's several children from different houses . The presenter very politely explained that this was wrong, the children from the same family can play together but should not mix with other children even relations. The caller was very surprised, he said well they're only children the reply was this virus is does not respect age.

Everything SirChenjin has said is spot on! I cannot understand how some posters are not able to comprehend this.

This lockdown will go on much longer if some people keep visiting others and mixing households! It is not rocket science to see that!

phoenix. You can't get through to everyone. I'm scared for the baby. We must just pray...

So, so many stories like this - they are so, so wrong. We would alll like to visit our loved ones but can't - something should be done.

Armynanny, that is hilarious but also exactly why people are confused or maybe even look like they are breaking the rules. It is also human nature to interpret things to suit yourselves and justify what you are doing. If you seriously think people are flouting the rules, my advice for what it is worth is to complete the form to notify the police: www.police.uk/tua/tell-us-about/c19/tell-us-about-possible-breach-coronavirus-measures/
I wouldn't confront anybody about their misdemeanours because you could be putting yourself at risk; tempers might be very frayed at the moment.
My son was taken to task the other day about taking his wife and son shopping with him the other day. My DIL can't cope with my autistic DGS without my son around, she doesn't drive and can't shop by herself due to anxiety. My son can't manage the shopping with his autistic son by himself and they can't get delivery slots. By sitting their son in a trolley and one of them keeping him occupied, the other can select things off the shelves. Do they want to put themselves at risk? No. Do they want to put anyone else at risk? No. In between shopping and juggling with said child, they are also trying to work at home as they are key workers in one of the emergency services where the information they provide is critical at the moment. The last thing they needed was the Manager of a store very publicly shaming them and refusing to listen when they tried to explain. He did eventually let them in but my very law abiding DIL was mortified and her anxiety went through the roof.

I'm seriously concerned for the mental health of my closest friend ( also my neighbour) and one other neighbour.
My friend has turned so nasty about everyone, and I mean everyone. She couldn't even say something nice about Captain Tom, only wanting to know how he could afford such a large garden etc etc. ?
She phones me every time another neighbour gets a food delivery from her daughter ( that neighbour is 80 and vulnerable)
The puzzlingly thing is: she is a deeeply religious person and yet is seeing no good in anything at the moment ?
I've given up trying to convince another neighbour ( by phone) that it's perfectly ok to walk down the road to get her paper.

ican it would have been better if they’d phoned ahead and spoken to the store before they arrived and out the manager in a very difficult position. The stores are putting the clear guidelines in place and the manager was only doing their job.

I don't think she should even be going to look after the grandchildren. For a start she works in a place where she could easily pick up the virus. And secondly households should not mix. If, by chance, she has the virus but is not showing symptoms yet, she could possible pass it on to so many people... When are people going to get this through their thick heads...

My daughter is due to give birth in a couple of weeks. She's been strongly advised not to allow anyone into the house when she brings the baby home. Midwives and health visitors will not visit, either. This is to protect the vulnerable newborn from the virus. So I can't go to help her this time. It's very disappointing but we won't put our new addition at risk.