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How judgmental are you about people.

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kittylester Sun 07-Nov-21 19:05:55

Gransnet seems to be a very judgmental place today - from dissing people's choice of daily paper to 'guessing' why someone disliked a couple on Strictly.

I imagine that most people on here would see themselves as being very tolerant but does that tolerance only stretch to people who think in a similar way?

Cabbie21 Mon 08-Nov-21 13:50:27

In my opinion, if I am allowed one, there is a difference between disagreeing with someone’s views and being judgmental about that person. Surely being judgmental means openly condemning someone for their opinions or choices?

Naturally, opinions differ. We can respect others as individuals without necessarily agreeing with them, or being their friend. (in real life ). We might disagree with them, and say why, or we might let it pass, perhaps because we are aware that this person’s circumstances have clouded their judgment or made them unable to see clearly, or maybe they are quite simply in pain.
One of the first things I learnt when I joined Citizens Advice was not to be judgmental. We are there for our clients, no matter what their background.
It doesn’t mean we agree with all their opinions or life choices. If a client is being discriminatory eg racist, sexist, ageist, we do counteract such views as being unacceptable.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 08-Nov-21 14:18:10

Disclaimer I have severe brain fog due to being poorly

In real life I am laid back with many many friends of all political persuasions, pro and anti Brexit, different religions etc. etc.

On GN the written word, without face recognition and body language is easily misinterpreted.

I try very hard not to judge people by appearance or differing views however I am woefully intolerant of racism, sexism, cruelty of any kind and out right rudeness.

Some posts particularly on Politics and Corona Virus threads are often attacking the poster as opposed to questioning/debating the posters views.

As for judging folks for the Newspaper they read, I find that hilarious (just off upstairs to watch Channel 5 Christmas film, feel free to judge me if you wish ??)

kittylester Mon 08-Nov-21 14:21:25

Quite!!! Well put Gg. I'm debating going and watching rubbish too. It's that sort of day really.

lemongrove Mon 08-Nov-21 14:32:46

MissAdventure

Me neither.
Especially if they wear leggings whilst doing so.

I’d better take mine off then ( not a pretty sight.)

Whitewavemark2 Mon 08-Nov-21 14:36:35

Lucca

Competitive cleaning …..

What is that?

Calistemon Mon 08-Nov-21 14:50:10

kittylester

Quite!!! Well put Gg. I'm debating going and watching rubbish too. It's that sort of day really.

It's just started raining here so we are going to watch tv as well.

However, we never watch rubbish, only worthwhile intellectually stimulating programmes.
(judgemental comment, please note)

Actually, we're going to watch Brian Cox!

Aveline Mon 08-Nov-21 14:54:25

MissAdventure people wearing cheap leggings somehow make me think of sausages...

Kali2 Mon 08-Nov-21 15:25:44

There is little more judgemental than to make the judgement that people are ... judgemental- because they have different opinions to yours.

If someone tells me they get their information from the DM or Fox News- I shall say that I, personally, do not think either is a good source of factual information. Fair enough- and you are very free to disagree. End ... of.

kircubbin2000 Mon 08-Nov-21 15:55:42

What is actually wrong with the Mail?It gives an overview of news, cookery fashion and medical. The puzzles are good too.

oodles Mon 08-Nov-21 18:19:03

Look up scare stories in the DM – google the DM's list of things that give you cancer
The DM can sometimes be good if it's just copying things without commenting, I've seen some interesting old photos but much stuff on there is racist, the online version and the facebook site are very racist, there is much that is hateful

I knew some people for several years and got on very well superficially, but when they moved away and I was invited to become Facebook friends oh gosh, so much hate, racism, islamophobia, anti climate change, things have never been bettter, I was horrified. I'd feel very different about them in person nowadays, suppose I had introduced them to someone they were hateful about
I've also been surprised how some seemingly sensible people have come out as covid conspiracy believers, anti-mask, anti-vax, anti lockdown, covid is just a bad dose of flu and children don't get it, it's not deadly, thank heavens I'll not run into them, I don't think I could cope with risking the subject coming up, I'd always thought they could weigh up the evidence and make sensible decisions.
I judge people who kill and abuse and do not think they have done wrong, I judge neonazis and those who knowingly and by choice do wrong, you can't be too tolerant. Obviously, you can be tolerant of things that don't hurt anyone, people do differently and it's not a criticism of those who have different opinions. But so many people say well we did so and so and it never did me any harm, but if you hurt people in any way that is wrong, you learn better and do better, some say you don't need to use proper restraints for children in cars, they never were strapped in, but we know better now and protect the vulnerable

Chewbacca Mon 08-Nov-21 18:27:04

What is actually wrong with the Mail?It gives an overview of news, cookery fashion and medical The puzzles are good too.

Snobbery kircubbin, that's why. But it's quite interesting that those who peer down their noses at certain newspapers are frequently the ones to be able to quote ad verbatim from it or copy and paste from it online. grin

Galaxy Mon 08-Nov-21 20:19:25

It's more than snobbery I think but it's quite hard to articulate what I mean. It's an utter disconnect from a large section of society. It's about not having any understanding of peoples lives.

JaneJudge Mon 08-Nov-21 20:23:21

lots of people live within their own worlds
I may have already said this, I am rather tired grin

M0nica Tue 09-Nov-21 14:16:29

The most judgemental are those who say they are not.

Spinnaker Tue 09-Nov-21 14:32:54

M0nica

The most judgemental are those who say they are not.

So true

FannyCornforth Tue 09-Nov-21 15:00:17

M0nica

The most judgemental are those who say they are not.

That’s very judgmental of you M0nica wink
I feel that I can confidently say this as the pair of us almost always have eerily similar views on everything smile

Blondiescot Tue 09-Nov-21 15:08:50

I think I'm a lot less judgemental than I used to be. I hold my hands up and admit to having been a bit of a 'grammar nazi' on some internet forums in the past (I blame a lifetime's work spent correcting other people's spelling and grammar), but I just scroll past now, as you never know the reasons behind it.
Likewise, I used to be very guilty of dismissing people who claimed to have anxiety or depression as just needing to pull themselves together. How wrong was I? I feel awful about that now, as it was really only when the menopause struck, and I experienced both for myself, that I understood how debilitating both can be.

lemongrove Tue 09-Nov-21 16:18:34

M0nica

The most judgemental are those who say they are not.

Hmmm, not at all sure about that.
Some will be, certainly, but others hold up their hands to it( as those on here who admit to being very judgemental.)
Others say they are not, and it will be true.
Think your one liner is too sweeping Monica on this subject.

kircubbin2000 Tue 09-Nov-21 17:07:11

I can be judgemental about people with no common sense or who blindly follow rules.
One group I belong to were planning a day out and I suggested for lunch a popular pub made famous by a well known poet.
The leader was quite dubious and proceeded to phone her husband to check whether it would be suitable for a group of ladies!
At the same group we have not used the kitchen or had coffee because of covid because someone told us not to. I brought my own cup and teabag and don't think I infected anyone.

M0nica Tue 09-Nov-21 17:14:56

I have yet to meet anyone who is not judgemental. There are just judments that are acceptable to other people and those that are not.

Josianne Tue 09-Nov-21 17:44:38

M0nica

I have yet to meet anyone who is not judgemental. There are just judments that are acceptable to other people and those that are not.

Others say they are not, and it will be true. Phew thanks, lemongrove, I will let my previous comment stand!

None of us can help forming opinions about other people, usually measured by our own views, or standards. That I totally understand. We judge and draw conclusions.
But being "judgmental" sounds like a negative thing with unattractive nuances. Is it because we want to avoid our own faults that we point them out in others in a critical, sometimes authoritative manner?

Mollygo Tue 09-Nov-21 18:33:04

I just love the fact that this thread is running alongside the tacky greeting cards thread.

MissAdventure Tue 09-Nov-21 19:01:46

Some things deserve to be judged, I think.
To not do so is condoning the unacceptable.
Some though, are just ridiculous (like saying the word "mum" on a card is tacky)

Calmlocket Wed 10-Nov-21 06:15:19

Some judgements are created through an inability to relate to what someone is saying.

Lucca Wed 10-Nov-21 06:56:35

MissAdventure

Some things deserve to be judged, I think.
To not do so is condoning the unacceptable.
Some though, are just ridiculous (like saying the word "mum" on a card is tacky)

Yes this hits the proverbial nail on head…