Advice please re a Covid problem

What is the daughter thinking of? Not only willing to put both father and mother at risk but also others in the wider family. She seems to be quite selfish in her refusal to accept isolation rules. Fortunately many others in her position will behave better

Perhaps this situation is repeated by other selfish people which would explain the spread of Covid. It makes you think doesn’t it?

I thought isolation meant that you had to stay at home with no contact until you are better. Going to someone else’s house in a car def doesn’t fulfil the requirements. No wonder it keeps spreading if everyone breaks the rules.

Kate22

Hi Everyone,
I’d be glad of your advice/opinions, please.
My husband’s daughter lives in London and has just tested positive for COVID. My husband is driving down to pick her up on Xmas eve - a 3 hour journey and take her to her mother’s home ( the next village to us) so she can spend Christmas with them. Understandably my husband doesn’t want to think of her spending Christmas alone in isolation. On Christmas Day my four children ( all of whom incidentally work for the NHS) plus two grandchildren are coming for Xmas and Boxing Day . I am very unhappy that my husband is knowingly putting us all at risk by being in such close contact with a positive case. I have worked hard to remain calm although I am inwardly seething but have said that if my children knew they would ( rightly in my opinion) refuse to come at Christmas. They cannot knowingly compromise the health of their patients . I feel
I cannot keep something so serious from them. My husband has agreed , albeit absolutely furiously, to go and stay in a hotel over Christmas once he’s dropped his daughter off. I’m perfectly happy for him to do this but I wondered what others thought and if anyone could suggest a better solution! Incidentally he was meant to be spending part of Christmas Day with his elderly parents but doesn’t want to put them at risk .

Isolation is the key word here, take her food etc, but for goodness sakes she has to isolate, for 7 days if vaccinated, if not it’s ten. With testing. How are we going to put an end to this if people keep thinking they are above the rules. Doing a Cummins springs to mind. Suggest the covid rules are read on the NHS / Gov web site.

I feel that your husband's daughter is being very selfish because there is a high chance of her passing on Covid to her father, her mother, you, your four children and your two grandchildren, and she would do this even though she very clearly KNOWS that she should isolate in the hope of not passing Covid on to others who may or may not suffer more than her.

I can understand the predicament your husband's daughter is in but the truth is, your daughter should not be putting her own parents at risk just for the sake of one day at Christmas. Why not wait until the Covid has passed? Christmas day is just one date out of 365 days each year. If someone is ok for 364 days, why risk everyone's health and happiness just for the sake of one day? If someone is lonely for 364 days, they can surely manage one extra day which can easily be made up for after Covid has gone.

Sorry, my post should say: I can understand the predicament your husband is in but the truth is, your husband's daughter should not be putting her own parents at risk just for the sake of one day at Christmas. Why not wait until the Covid has passed? Christmas day is just one date out of 365 days each year. If someone is ok for 364 days, why risk everyone's health and happiness just for the sake of one day? If someone is lonely for 364 days, they can surely manage one extra day which can easily be made up for after Covid has gone.

Why do we politely say 'they tested positive' - because that means the rules can ge bent? She HAS Covid. My daughter living with cancer, had Covid, I was so upset I couldn't go to her but it then put me at risk with the additional worry then for her. Send him on his way to her but then tell him the 2 of them are on their own!

Omicron, according to the BMJ (British medical journal) is just a common cold.

Would you care to post a link to the article?

12Sawsage2

Omicron, according to the BMJ (British medical journal) is just a common cold.

Really! There has been nothing on the news to suggest that. Could you drop the link in please.

doi.org/10.1136/bmj.n3103 - I think this is the article in the BMJ BUT I’ve read it as just pointing out different symptoms of omicron. I certainly don’t want to catch Covid under any circumstances.

Why not ask the advice of your medic kids? Surely they'll know what's the best options/risks?

When we had NO defences things were alarmingly frightening! Apart from immunocompromised unfortunates if do in blue/three times vaxxed there is defence- and really good meaningful defence too. Why is everyone panicking and bolting Evey time we hear of a positive? Doesn't anyone actually trust the benefits we gain from vaxes? It sounds like it! Why so terrified?

Thanks Oldbat. The article says omicron gives cold-like symptoms sawsage. It doesn’t say it’s ‘just a common cold’.

#if we are two, grrrrr can we PLEASE have an edit button?!?!?!

Germanshepherdsmum

Thanks Oldbat. The article says omicron gives cold-like symptoms sawsage. It doesn’t say it’s ‘just a common cold’.

No such thing each cold caught is a virus variant in itself!

BMJ article
The BMJ did not say that Omicron was the common cold. They were saying that the symptoms were like those of a common cold and a bit different to symptoms of earlier variants.
They were trying to get the Government to accurately describe symptoms so that people did not just assume they had a cold and couldn't have Covid.
Response to OP
His daughter is being selfish and breaking the rules. She, like everyone, has a responsibility to protect others, including her family and yours. She can just move her Christmas celebration with her mum to a later date whenever it is safe. She should be isolating.

I have ‘underlying conditions’ Mummer including asthma but am not immunocompromised. I have no wish to contract any variant of covid. And we should all be worried because covid can and does still lead to hospitalisation even in the fully vaccinated and has the ability to overwhelm essential services due to sickness and isolation.

What do you mean ‘no such thing’ Mummer? Are you a virologist or epidemiologist?

Your logic suggests we will never be able to "carry on" ever! How long will the need for isolation last? Forever? A year, two? Ten? Each new strain to trigger restrictions on n movements/ businesses? Are you of a mind to think one day it will all just go away?. 'flu never did after it ravaged my husband's dad's family in the 1920s, killing all but his dad and an aunt? Millions died without vaccines.life carried on slowly but surely even though 10x1000s died each year-still do! Yet we mostly have been able to function as well. Too much access to every tiny scrap of information overloads us with levels we simply cannot process-so we panic! Nobody asks "do we need to know how things are in Glochamarra?" When we live a thousand miles away and nobody in Glochamarra cares anyway as they've not been affected.............what"might" happen is ruining everyone's lives, we need to be bolder and stronger and stop belting round like headless chickens every time someone sneezes!!!!

Mummer

When we had NO defences things were alarmingly frightening! Apart from immunocompromised unfortunates if do in blue/three times vaxxed there is defence- and really good meaningful defence too. Why is everyone panicking and bolting Evey time we hear of a positive? Doesn't anyone actually trust the benefits we gain from vaxes? It sounds like it! Why so terrified?

Perhaps if you read the rules on isolating you may understand Mummer.

Gov are wildly over compensating now due to their total lack of competence in first wave when the bigheads thought they knew better than everyone and managed to allow over100k deaths in their crass stupidity. But that horse has bolted and they're still too thick too see what the craic is!

They’re not alone there are they!

Thé most sensible suggestion seems to be for your husband to spend Christmas with his daughter having taken everything they need. They then isolate and he tests before returning to you. Unless of course her mother chooses to go and stay with her.

All you people calling this young girl selfish and every other words possible PLEASE read the original post again there is NOTHING in it that’s says the girl has asked for company

Understandably my husband doesn’t want to think of her spending Christmas alone in isolation.

It’s the husband who wants to be with his daughter so he’s the idiot
As I said before send him to keep her company and let him stay there for the week or until she tests negative and make sure he tests negative for at least two or three days before he comes home because there is a delay of at least two days