Should men have their own “Gramps Net” ?

Doodledog

FannyCornforth

Doodledog trust me, it’s not just ‘a few people’.
And you can’t really include me part of ‘the old guard’
Anyway, I can’t even be bothered to be apathetic anymore

Well, yes, it's perfectly possible that I am missing something, and I do trust your judgement; but as a regular poster I don't see seismic shifts. I do see differences in opinion about how things should be run, and I do understand that injustices in online communities cause real distress - I'm not minimising that at all. I'm just saying that outside of the people involved in the differences it matters far less.

By 'old guard' I don't mean the longest serving members - just the ones who post most at any given time, and then feel pushed out by 'newbies'. It's shifting sands.

I'm not very good at being apathetic either (), and I am not trying to stir up more trouble, but I think you are going to have to be a lot more specific if people are going to understand more than that there are those who feel aggrieved by HQ decisions just now. Reading between the lines, I'm guessing that this goes back to the cruise threads (which I wasn't on, so can only surmise) when StarDreamer wanted to dictate the parameters of the thread, some posters objected and tried to derail it by chatting over the other posts? Things have clearly rumbled on since then, and it looks as though Egwin is being accused of being an alter ego?

The above may be wrong, but frankly, talking about things that a significant percentage of readers don't understand is exactly what I mean by the 'in crowd'. If anything is going to put people off posting it is feeling excluded, and that happens a lot.

I have used what is called the Report facility to send a message to GNHQ.

Here is the transcript.

> Reading between the lines, I'm guessing that this goes back to the cruise threads (which I wasn't on, so can only surmise) when StarDreamer wanted to dictate the parameters of the thread, some posters objected and tried to derail it by chatting over the other posts? Things have clearly rumbled on since then, and it looks as though Egwin is being accused of being an alter ego?

I did not look at Gransnet today until quite late in the morning and I noticed this thread.

Before today I had noticed a thread about food started by a poster using the username Egwin.

Upon reading the post that I am referring to here, not "reporting" it, and seeing my username mentioned, I looked at the thread that Egwin started.

It seems clear that at least one poster thinks that I have started a new account with that name. I have not.

The fact of the matter is, that, in the discussion on Monday, now deleted, that someone accused me of attention-seeking by posting.

I reflected on that, and decided that if that was the impression of me, then I need to consider my situation carefully.

I also decided not to post again at least until a certain person returned to posting, and if that were never to happen, so be it.

I write to be specifically clear about one thing. I am not the poster Egwin. I have no connection with the poster named Egwin.

Up until now I have not posted since I posted in the now-deleted discussion on Monday.

I am happy to take responsibility for my own posts.

I make no comment whatsoever one way or the other about the posts by Egwin nor about Egwin, except in saying that Egwin is not me.

This sort of reminds me of the life of Brian,
‘I’m Brian & so is my wife’
Only in reverse.

Thanks Kandinsky that’s given me the best laugh of the day so far!

I'm finding GN hard work at the moment.

GagaJo

GN is for anyone. The chances of having a separate Gramps net I think is zero. Pretty sure GN won't be around that much longer either.

I don’t see the need and please don’t call it grampsnet. Too twee. It’ll be hubbynet next ?

How about Hubshub?
I bit like ‘Pornhub’, but not much?

Perhaps some women should stop treating men as some alien race and start treating them as people. I think it's nice to have views and opinions from all sorts of backgrounds. On top of that women have spent the last twenty years ensuring that men can't have exclusive clubs or even have a choir of their own, so it's a bit cheeky now to think men can be excluded from websites.

Or not at all like that hopefully

Galaxy

Or not at all like that hopefully

Hopefully ?

They arent excluded they dont come to websites like this it's a fairly common trend.

I have only been on here about a year
Looked at Mumsnet for years, but not regularly.

In that time have noticed some folks, have come back in under a new name, you can tell by thier style of communication after they have had stroppy fit, and flounce off.
There are some posters if you don't agree with them are just vile no wonder then get banned.
I added a light hearted comment once and was accused of being a parody account.

Political far too many "keyboard warrior " so lots of posters don't bother posting. God help you if your in the Tory party!

As for men on here, they tend to post on Twitter, some might do FB but not regularly in fact I work with younger guys who can't be bothered with that either.
I can't see any problems with men on here but I doubt they could be bothered.

Perhaps it does need new blood, the GNers of the future are going to be very different.

I think it`s nice to read a mans point of view.
They see some things different to us women,and vice versa.

This is an open forum and we do not know who is male and who is female. It is how pleasent and thoughtful a person is that matters not their gender.
I have noticed that there are now less men bashing threads at the moment which I think is an improvement as I do hate the us and them attitude that sometimes comes across in online forums.

I am not in favour of asking for a man’s version of Gransnet. If they want one, they can ask, but I don't see it happening. I don’t have a problem with men posting. Most of the time I don’t even notice people’s user names and they mostly don’t indicate gender anyway. A variety of points of view is good.
I tend to avoid political threads, and will leave a thread if two or three members are getting too cliquey or if it turns nasty.
Most threads I read are interesting or useful.

I am happy to have men posting on GN but many of the ones who have said they are men don't stay long.

Visgir1

I have only been on here about a year
Looked at Mumsnet for years, but not regularly.

In that time have noticed some folks, have come back in under a new name, you can tell by thier style of communication after they have had stroppy fit, and flounce off.
There are some posters if you don't agree with them are just vile no wonder then get banned.
I added a light hearted comment once and was accused of being a parody account.

Political far too many "keyboard warrior " so lots of posters don't bother posting. God help you if your in the Tory party!

As for men on here, they tend to post on Twitter, some might do FB but not regularly in fact I work with younger guys who can't be bothered with that either.
I can't see any problems with men on here but I doubt they could be bothered.

Perhaps it does need new blood, the GNers of the future are going to be very different.

Goodness what a negative post accusing people of flouncing bring keyboard warriors etc

Cabbie21

I am not in favour of asking for a man’s version of Gransnet. If they want one, they can ask, but I don't see it happening. I don’t have a problem with men posting. Most of the time I don’t even notice people’s user names and they mostly don’t indicate gender anyway. A variety of points of view is good.
I tend to avoid political threads, and will leave a thread if two or three members are getting too cliquey or if it turns nasty.
Most threads I read are interesting or useful.

Sorry but this “cliquey” thing is so over used. If everyone a thread says they share a viewpoint it doesn’t make them a clique or a keyboard warrior!

Quite happy for men women parents non parents etc to be on This site !

I don’t care who posts. I have been on a forum that was so over moderated it has all but disappeared and I wouldn’t want that to happen here. Just now it seems about right. I haven’t been here that long but I can’t say much has changed during the 12 months or so I can remember. Of course you get the odd very confrontational type but they seem to be in a minority and you can always just ignore them.

But, lily, the only answers I get are automated.

Chewbacca

Doodledog @ 11.49 sums it up perfectly and it's precisely why I can't be bothered posting any more. Personally, I'd like to see more men posting across the boards; it would give a different perspective on most subjects.

I hope you will carry on posting Chewbacca

Joseanne

I'm finding GN hard work at the moment.

Much of the time I feel rather bemused these days ?

kittylester

But, lily, the only answers I get are automated.

Same here.

Including last week, I accidentally posted a photo of something of mine that was confidential.

I reported it at least twice.

I reported several of the pms alerting me to it.

At least four other posters reported it.

In the end I emailed Mumsnet, and it still took over three hours for it to be taken down.

There is also Spam that I reported well over a week ago still standing.

Looking at Mumsnet the age range seems to be very wide, certainly well into the grandparents age range, it is very much “no holds barred” and the language can be very “direct” the threads can be very fast moving as well. I guess there is a lot of overlap with age range .

StarDreamer, I hope you know that I was not accusing you of anything- I was trying to work out what was going on.