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Partner refuses to speak to my 8 year old grandson

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sandra13 Sun 28-Jan-24 00:47:29

My OH (of just over a year) refuses to speak on the phone to my oldest GS who is 8. He says it’s because he found him rude the first time he met him a year ago. I have tried to get him to accept that sometimes kids are not at their best when meeting people for the first time. He’s 78 and insists that when he was a child he never interrupted. I’ve tried to tell him that times have changed but he refuses to listen. I’ve asked him to move on and try build a relationship with my GS but he flatly refuses. My OH and I live abroad and he only sees my family 3-4 times a year for a couple of hours at a time. I visit more often. I’m alone at the moment and my GS is coming on a sleepover tomorrow and my OH has told me to tell my grandson to leave me alone in another room and not interrupt me when I am talking on the phone to him. I don’t want to do that because if my GS does interrupt me my OH will sulk and use it as another reason to confirm why he doesn’t like him. He has no relationship with his own granddaughters (8 and 10) and blames his daughter, but I think he is the problem. His biggest concern with his GDs is that they are doted on my their mother.
I think he is being self-centred. I have given up most of my time with my family to live abroad with him but his behaviour indicates that I must always put him first (but without actually saying that).
Advice please.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 28-Jan-24 17:47:06

Good grief - he insists you only phone from home? Sandra, why on earth are you in this relationship?

Norah Sun 28-Jan-24 17:52:09

sandra13

GrandtanteJE65

I was talking to him the morning of the upcoming sleepover when he made his “suggestions”. I have called him twice a day for the entire time I have been away. He insists I phone from home - doesn’t like it if I phone from my parked car for example. I make a big effort to make him feel that I am still thinking of him even tho I’m far away - cards, hidden notes at his place. He doesn’t reciprocate.

Move on, get out while you're still young and able.

pascal30 Sun 28-Jan-24 17:55:10

sandra13

GrandtanteJE65

I was talking to him the morning of the upcoming sleepover when he made his “suggestions”. I have called him twice a day for the entire time I have been away. He insists I phone from home - doesn’t like it if I phone from my parked car for example. I make a big effort to make him feel that I am still thinking of him even tho I’m far away - cards, hidden notes at his place. He doesn’t reciprocate.

good grief.. he'd have to be extremely good company for me to tolerate these ridiculous demands..

Ladyleftfieldlover Sun 28-Jan-24 18:01:15

How can a reasonable woman even consider being in this type of relationship? He sounds appalling.

BlueBelle Sun 28-Jan-24 18:16:41

Do you have your eyes shut tight Sandra well honestly if you continue this relationship it will, as my Nan used to say,
‘all end in tears’

Callistemon21 Sun 28-Jan-24 18:19:02

pascal30

sandra13

GrandtanteJE65

I was talking to him the morning of the upcoming sleepover when he made his “suggestions”. I have called him twice a day for the entire time I have been away. He insists I phone from home - doesn’t like it if I phone from my parked car for example. I make a big effort to make him feel that I am still thinking of him even tho I’m far away - cards, hidden notes at his place. He doesn’t reciprocate.

good grief.. he'd have to be extremely good company for me to tolerate these ridiculous demands..

He must be doing something right 🤔

Labradora Sun 28-Jan-24 18:26:47

Your OH must mean a very great deal to you for you to have agreed to live abroad with him although I appreciate that the relationship is fairly recent. Also, since you have yourself moved abroad , you seem content for your own relationship with your GS to be less intense than many modern grandparents seem to want ( or expect) these days( that's not intended as a criticism, just an observation). That being the case is it possible that you could make light of it , rather than making a "thing" of it, and just get him to say to GS "hello chum, whatever, everything OK .... " rather than framing it as building a relationship ?
No offence but given your GSs and OH's respective ages ,is a highly significant relationship for either party on the cards here ?
Agree that given his relationship with his own GC , he does sound as if he wants all your attention and this could be a Red Flag.
Good Luck.

V3ra Sun 28-Jan-24 19:20:44

Virtually all that sandra13 says about her other half could have been said about my mother-in-law's second husband, and then some.

My brother-in-law once said to her that the man must be good in bed, because he couldn't see what else she could possibly see in him.

flappergirl Sun 28-Jan-24 20:15:21

V3ra

Virtually all that sandra13 says about her other half could have been said about my mother-in-law's second husband, and then some.

My brother-in-law once said to her that the man must be good in bed, because he couldn't see what else she could possibly see in him.

Lol. He could be the biggest stud in Europe but I still wouldn't put up with this crap.

Sandra, don't marry him. He'll be entitled to half of everything you own.

Whiff Sun 28-Jan-24 20:29:36

sandra13 I know love is supposed to be blind but not deaf and dumb as well.

Why are you with a man who has no respect for you or the love you have for your grandchildren.

Why did you leave and go with him. You need to live the life you want . He is acting like a pubescent teenager. He needs to grow up .

Please don't waste anymore of your life with him. Lives to short and you don't want to look back and have what ifs. Nor do you want to miss seeing your grandchildren grow up. As the older they get they will see what he is doing and they will be hurt and hurt at the way you are treated.

Be the woman and mother and grandmother you want to be now before it's to late.

Greyisnotmycolour Sun 28-Jan-24 20:41:18

Following your recent updates, the issue with your grandson is the tip of the iceberg. He wants you home, in your house, calling twice a day. Good grief, this is ridiculous. You can do better than this, either by yourself or with a different partner. Please listen to advice and part company with him. He will not bring you joy, he will squeeze the very life out of you, suffocating you slowly until you are a shell. There are so many red flags that this will not end well for you.

Callistemon21 Sun 28-Jan-24 20:45:04

sandra13 I know love is supposed to be blind but not deaf and dumb as well.

Quite, Whiff
And, sorry, sandra, please do not be stupid.

Redhead56 Mon 29-Jan-24 01:04:03

Simply this person would not be my partner but history.

TinSoldier Mon 29-Jan-24 01:47:35

Reading this first, I assumed Sandra had left the UK to live abroad with this man full time but that doesn't appear to be the case. I am also assuming they are not married.

She says:

We had dated for a year in 1965 (so that’s 58 years ago when he was 20) and went our separate ways. We met again a few years ago and saw each other a couple of times since then when I was visiting the UK.

So it seems to be Sandra who is living outside the UK and this man is in the UK.

She says she spends five months of the year in her own home.

She also mentions time differences making things impossible so there has to be a great distance between their respective homes.

She is at her own home at the moment, wherever that is, and returns to the UK on Wednesday.

On some practical notes. Unless Sandra is a British national living overseas, I believe overseas visitors can only come to the UK for six months on a visitors permit. The criteria also says:

you’ll not live in the UK for extended periods through frequent or successive visits.

www.gov.uk/standard-visitor

There are penalties for infringing these regulations so take care.

That doesn’t help with the problem of this man’s lousy behaviour but I just thought I’d mention it.

There could also be tax implications for someone who lives in the UK for six months or more which it sounds as though Sandra is. Even if her domicile is outside the UK, she could be taxed on any income she brings into the UK, which she may be doing unless she lives off this man’s income while she is here.

Anyway, he sounds like a narcissist playing power games. I wouldn’t waste the expensive airfare going back and forth or leave myself exposed to potential immigration penalties and tax bills for someone this controlling and mean about young children.

I’m intrigued to know if he ever makes the reverse journey or whether it’s just Sandra, who is presumably a similar age, doing all the back and forth.

Apologies if I have missed something or misinterpreted the information given.

sandra13 Mon 29-Jan-24 02:06:29

Tin Soldier

I am a British citizen so immigration is not an issue for me.

Grannytomany Mon 29-Jan-24 03:12:18

Curtaintwitcher

I have a totally different opinion from everyone else here. It sounds as though your grandson is spoiled, hasn't been taught any manners or respect. It is not ok to interrupt someone while they are talking on the phone, unless there is an emergency.

There is this assumption that a new partner must also take on the rest of the family. I don't agree. We all have different standards and your new partner seems to have higher standards than you. Find someone who is as lax on manners as you are.

Oh dear.

M0nica Mon 29-Jan-24 09:25:45

'She only does it to annoy because she knows it teases' (with apologies to Lewis Carroll)

Curtaintwitcher, that is.

BlueBelle Mon 29-Jan-24 09:31:02

So can you clear it up now Sandraas I m well confused is it you that has a home overseas or one in Uk or is it your
partner ??
Gosh this gets more muddled as the posts go on

Callistemon21 Mon 29-Jan-24 10:25:26

BlueBelle

So can you clear it up now Sandraas I m well confused is it you that has a home overseas or one in Uk or is it your
partner ??
Gosh this gets more muddled as the posts go on

It is beginning to have a familiar ring to it as well, Bluebelle
🤔

OldFrill Mon 29-Jan-24 10:32:35

sandra13

Tin Soldier

I am a British citizen so immigration is not an issue for me.

I think you've given enough information for general 'advice'. Sometimes I find the nosiness probing incredulous.

Callistemon21 Mon 29-Jan-24 10:34:00

Perhaps because some stories stretch credulity?

RosiesMaw Mon 29-Jan-24 10:37:30

Grannytomany

Curtaintwitcher

I have a totally different opinion from everyone else here. It sounds as though your grandson is spoiled, hasn't been taught any manners or respect. It is not ok to interrupt someone while they are talking on the phone, unless there is an emergency.

There is this assumption that a new partner must also take on the rest of the family. I don't agree. We all have different standards and your new partner seems to have higher standards than you. Find someone who is as lax on manners as you are.

Oh dear.

Bring back the days of sending little boys up chimneys, children should be seen and not heard, spare the rod and spoil the child etc?

Callistemon21 Mon 29-Jan-24 10:40:57

RosiesMaw

Grannytomany

Curtaintwitcher

I have a totally different opinion from everyone else here. It sounds as though your grandson is spoiled, hasn't been taught any manners or respect. It is not ok to interrupt someone while they are talking on the phone, unless there is an emergency.

There is this assumption that a new partner must also take on the rest of the family. I don't agree. We all have different standards and your new partner seems to have higher standards than you. Find someone who is as lax on manners as you are.

Oh dear.

Bring back the days of sending little boys up chimneys, children should be seen and not heard, spare the rod and spoil the child etc?

He's old enough to go down the pit. Small children are very useful for pulling and pushing tubs of coal along narrow passageways.
That'll keep him quiet.

RosiesMaw Mon 29-Jan-24 10:42:18

Absolutely Calistemon ! 🤣🤣

Farzanah Mon 29-Jan-24 10:44:53

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