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Buttonjugs Thu 26-Jun-25 23:07:01

I have two granddaughters who are wildly different. I think one of them has ADHD and the other ASD. The problem is their mother doesn’t want to accept that they have anything. I am ASD myself and know how hard it is when nobody understands you. I just need advice to help them

FranP Sat 28-Jun-25 19:20:57

Trouble with labelling is that schools can typecast with common adjustments. Despite a common label, we can need different things. One child with hearing problems may lipread, another may not be able to for example.

It is a double edged sword. I guess we coped and managed to fit in, so there is a balance somewhere between allowing us to do what we like and encouraging us to interact and try.

Milsa Sat 28-Jun-25 19:33:32

Elowen33

If their parents do not think they need extra support at school there is no point in giving them a label.

I would think the parents, who spend the most time with them would no if they needed any extra help.

I agree with this approach. Someone suggested our daughter be assessed for things, the school said No, she is very very focused, great student.

Then we needed help with other presentations, someone suggested all sorts. Then I said No. Found a private specialist who cured our daughter of her presentations with a single meeting. So glad my child does not live with forced labels and knows her worth

Milsa Sat 28-Jun-25 19:36:27

Aveline

Nobody is ASD. They may be on the autism spectrum somewhere but there is always more to a person than just autism. All the other genetic components and their life experience contributes to their personality and presentation.

Agree to this as well. We are human beings and have much more to us than a silly label ....

Sarnia Sat 28-Jun-25 19:37:16

FranP

Trouble with labelling is that schools can typecast with common adjustments. Despite a common label, we can need different things. One child with hearing problems may lipread, another may not be able to for example.

It is a double edged sword. I guess we coped and managed to fit in, so there is a balance somewhere between allowing us to do what we like and encouraging us to interact and try.

What is it with all this 'label' nonsense?
A professional assessment will provide a diagnosis which gives, in explicit detail, the assessment findings. This can lead to an EHCP (Educational Healthcare Plan) which will be tailored for the unique needs of that person. This legal document opens educational doors so that the student can access the best education for them as an individual.

Milsa Sat 28-Jun-25 19:46:36

Sarnia

FranP

Trouble with labelling is that schools can typecast with common adjustments. Despite a common label, we can need different things. One child with hearing problems may lipread, another may not be able to for example.

It is a double edged sword. I guess we coped and managed to fit in, so there is a balance somewhere between allowing us to do what we like and encouraging us to interact and try.

What is it with all this 'label' nonsense?
A professional assessment will provide a diagnosis which gives, in explicit detail, the assessment findings. This can lead to an EHCP (Educational Healthcare Plan) which will be tailored for the unique needs of that person. This legal document opens educational doors so that the student can access the best education for them as an individual.

The EHCPs are given to the really challenged kids.
Our child and similar to her who are just shy and have few sensitivities and are A students do not need assessments or diagnoses for things they do not have. This is where the issue lies

watermeadow Sat 28-Jun-25 19:49:36

I think more and more children are being labelled because schools require them to all be round pegs. The square pegs can’t or won’t fit in the round holes provided and their schools fear they will fall short of their numerous targets.
The children have to all learn the same things and pass the same exams. If a child is different they must be labelled to excuse the school for failing to make them just the way they’re supposed to be.

Mollygo Sat 28-Jun-25 20:17:18

Sarnia
What is it with all this 'label' nonsense?
A professional assessment will provide a diagnosis which gives, in explicit detail, the assessment findings. This can lead to an EHCP (Educational Healthcare Plan) which will be tailored for the unique needs of that person. This legal document opens educational doors so that the student can access the best education for them as an individual.

We’ve come a long way since I was told by an Ed Psych that because I had more than one child that I assessed as having SEND, they could be taught in a group, despite the fact that I knew they had different problems.
The problem for some parents is that every EHCP does not necessarily entitle the child to have 1-1 support. Nor does it immediately solve all the child’s problems.

Buttonjugs Sun 29-Jun-25 09:57:22

Thanks all, I think I already knew there was nothing I could do. It was my neurodiverse son (not the father) who began noticing that the younger granddaughter showed characteristics of ASD. With the older one we have said we think she had ADHD but it gets brushed off. She doesn’t seem to struggle at school. I worry more about her sister because she hates school and often seems unhappy, just like my son at that age. Nothing has been picked up at school but then she probably is good at masking while there. She starts secondary school this year, so maybe it will be noticed there, I’ll just have to wait and see.

Iam64 Sun 29-Jun-25 14:11:11

Good at masking is a skill children learn early, especially those who realise they’re a bit different
Thanks for coming back buttonjugs. Labels is a dismissive way to describe a professional diagnosis
No wonder many children’s articulate needs go uncared for

Cossy Sun 29-Jun-25 14:18:21

Iam64

Good at masking is a skill children learn early, especially those who realise they’re a bit different
Thanks for coming back buttonjugs. Labels is a dismissive way to describe a professional diagnosis
No wonder many children’s articulate needs go uncared for

I so agree.

I wish both my daughters had been “labelled” in their school years, rather than masking and pretending all was fine, when it’s now very apparent it wasn’t “fine”.

Being dismissive of “labels” is almost as bad as denying these conditions exist.

No, we are not all a little bit autistic, some of us show some signs of being on the spectrum, perhaps very slightly, and would not display enough traits to meet a diagnosis.

Jaxjacky Sun 29-Jun-25 14:57:33

A private diagnosis of autism and appropriate medication has changed our granddaughter’s life, infinitely for the better. Waiting for the NHS assessment was proving intolerable for her whole family, it certainly isn’t a label, neither is her epilepsy.

Iam64 Sun 29-Jun-25 15:46:43

Jaxjaky, our family put money together for one of our eight year olds who was increasingly explosive. An excellent psychological assessment, including academic strengths and areas of challenge, advice to school and parents changed it all. A year in, all is well.

M0nica Mon 30-Jun-25 10:41:15

Iam64

Good at masking is a skill children learn early, especially those who realise they’re a bit different
Thanks for coming back buttonjugs. Labels is a dismissive way to describe a professional diagnosis
No wonder many children’s articulate needs go uncared for

I do not get this 'masking' business. I have ADHD and dyspraxia. My biggest problem at school, was that I couldn't mask. I was hopeless at pretending to be something I didn't understand, I also found it really very boring having to pretend to to be like people I had nothing in common with.

I just gave up and went for just being myself and if it cause problems, which it did, lived with them. Far more satisfaactory.