on Sunday, then I believe it will show that this country has lost any small semblance of moral decency it was holding onto. And that the heads of a national institution have let all thoughts of ethical reasoning go out of the window in favour of political correctness.
I can only hope that it doesn't make number one.
But, my God, this country has sunk to an all-time low.
Not sure if I am one of those who disappeared or not but just want to say I have not taken offence by comments made about me. I stand by my opinions..I am not for turning either... and accept that there are many who disagree with me. That is what forums and debates are for sharing and exchanging ideas and views!
I'm not sure if I'm one of 'the disappeared' but I left home at 7.30 and have just returned. Some of us are still working. Part time in my case, but others still have their noses to the grindstone full time. Just because someone isn't posting, doesn't mean they have disengaged.
As for royalty, now I really am confused. Whatever does that mean?
I was going to as well but then I thought why should I? I haven't been rude to or about anyone. I've argued a case rationally for even unpleasant things not to be censored for reasons which I've given. I'm happy for people to disagree with that view rationally.
I'm not happy, however, to have to read repeated unjust, uncorroborated, and unpleasant innuendo which may or may not refer to me ('royalty' and all that crap). How could I know? It certainly refers to somebody, or several somebodies. I think it stinks and I wish the people doing it would stop it.
I've been wanting to say that for a long time.
And the Oxford comma is deliberate, if anyone is wondering
For the record when I referred to teachers I was referring to those protesting in general and have been reported widely by the media and t.v. alike. I mentioned teachers, police officers and those who are of the christian faith as being people I once looked upto. I have been shocked this week by attitudes and I have said so. If that has upset anybody well I guess that is the way it will be.
Forget the song, forget politics my comment is about the demise of any respect for a recently deceased person, and yes I stand by the fact I think there is no moral compass anymore.
That has upset some of you but that is not a one way street. If I give it I will take it so nobody has caused any offence to me from what they have posted. If you agree to that principal then I would not have upset you either.
Dignity has dissappeared and empathy has gone with it. The arrogance of thinking you understand the feelings of people you have never met is most distasteful.
I thought you regarded empathy as a positive feeling – you have certainly mentioned it approvingly lots of times. Why then, all of a sudden, is someone thinking that they understand someone else's feelings arrogant and distasteful?
Mamardoit I don't recall a vote to appoint Movedalot spokesperson for Gransnet. She is, of course, entitled to complain if she feels unfairly treated by other Gransnetters – and, indeed, she does frequently – but that first paragraph in her post on 17:51:20 is, in my opinion, absolute nonsense. Unless she gives precise examples, I think she should retract and apologise – but I know that she is unlikely to.
I think she should apologise too. It really isn't on to keep making unspecific complaints and saying "you know who you are".
No.
You have to say who you mean if you want to complain about someone. I daresay you don't want to do that, so please stop saying vague accusatory stuff like that. It's horrible; it's unkind; it troubles even innocent people; it's akin to bullying.
And, god knows, you of all people have complained enough about bullying!
This has become like the classic definition of an argument, which is a sweeping statement, followed by a direct contradiction, followed by personal abuse, and followed by physical violence.
Thank god the physical violence is not possible online, or a lot of people would be sporting scratched eyes and torn hair.
It has been established that some people think that other people appear to prescribe what can be said on these threads, and other people think that some people go too far in their attacks. Could we talk about something different now, please?
There are a lot of new members joining at the moment and they will not be encouraged to post when they see the amount of flak that flies around. Neither will some established members.
That's odd Marmadoit. I'm sure I started off on here with my Mumsnet name - jangly. (Not that it matters at all! )
I do sometimes wonder if I am talking to someone on here that I have talked to before on MN, but with a different name now! Perhaps we should all state our previous MN incarnations if we have one. (not really)