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GadaboutGran Wed 15-May-13 10:47:53

... getting ready & thinking through my 3 min slot in 2 hours time telling Local Authority Chief Exec & 'partners' (I hate that word) that the Volunteers they could be using may look like old grannies but are so much more than the official 3 day course training them for this particular volunteer role (as Restorative justice facilitators).

What are you avoiding by going on Gransnet?

Elegran Wed 15-May-13 21:30:41

Maybe someone reported Bluebell's comments but no-one reported JO8's ?

j08 Wed 15-May-13 21:34:36

Maybe, just maybe, GNHQ don't want Gransnet to be one big holier than thou goody goody group hug.

But I could be wrong.

j08 Wed 15-May-13 21:35:06

Sorry for the lack of commas there.

Elegran Wed 15-May-13 21:37:40

I don't imagine they want it to be a place where people are insulted the first time they post, either. At least give a new poster time to get their feet under the desk before throwing a bucket of cold water over them.

Ana Wed 15-May-13 21:45:42

To reply to your post, MiceElf, no, I didn't think J08's comment was courteous. Neither did I think the two posts which were deleted were courteous. Did you read them? Or does the fact that the guidelines were broken by a poster whose views you agree with absolve them from criticism?

j08 Wed 15-May-13 21:46:49

"I don't imagine they want it to be a place where people are insulted the first time they post, either."

I'll give you that.

j08 Wed 15-May-13 21:47:48

moon

Bags Wed 15-May-13 21:54:21

Technically, Jonumbers' post was not personal, though anyone could be forgiven for thinking it was. I suspect that that's what made the difference if Bluebell said something personal to Jonumbers in response. such a response would come naturally after such a remark in such a place, after all.

So what you need to do, Bluebell, is find a way of saying what you said without it being obviously directed at a particular person.

Jonumbers' comment could, at a stretch, have been referring back to my comment and Movedalot's and not to Gigi's at all. I think that's how she "got away with it". It is rude, you see, but it's not personal. Or, at least, it can get away with being interpreted as not personal.

Best of luck refining your skills, bluebell smile

j08 Wed 15-May-13 21:56:17

Drop the jonumbers Bags!!! #yourflippin'ideainthefirstplace

Bags Wed 15-May-13 21:56:51

It's to help new members, jingsoldbean.

bluebell Wed 15-May-13 21:57:26

MicElf - I know you don't need me to say this but I will anyway I have enormous respect for your ethical/moral viewpoints and it is not fair ( is that ok HQ ) to suggest for one minute that you would shy from criticising comments I made just because we agree on some other matters.

j08 Wed 15-May-13 21:58:17

Yeah. Sharpen up bluebell. #bringiton

Giginanna Wed 15-May-13 21:58:57

I did't come to gransnet for a slanging match and certainly didn't mean to cause one! Thanks to those who told me to stick around.... But I think I'll leave you to it.

j08 Wed 15-May-13 21:59:55

got my ^s muddled up with my *s there. #nevermind

MiceElf Wed 15-May-13 22:01:26

Ana, I'm disappointed that you that make assumptions about me which have absolutely no basis in fact.

I did not read Bluebell's comments. They had gone before I logged on, so don't assume that I am biased in my condemnation of discourtesy.

But as far as I can see the nastiness was begun by Jo numbers. What a pity you feel compelled to support a discourteous member whose views you agree with.

Ana Wed 15-May-13 22:07:51

I felt compelled to question the condemnation of J08's post and the quoting of GNHQ guidelines while ignoring the fact that bluebell had obviously broken them. That's the pity, in my view.

Tegan Wed 15-May-13 22:11:57

I don't care if the 'sick bucket' comment 'wasn't aimed at anyone in particular' I still think it was a disgusting thing to say to anyone. Bluebells comments [which I didn't see] seemed to be a reply to the rudeness of J08's comment. Am I just being stupid by feeling that the sick bucket comment was aimed at the OP or did other people [including the OP] get the same impression?

MiceElf Wed 15-May-13 22:16:43

Surely Ana you can see that Jo numbers made a discourteous response to a new member which was quite uncalled for and clearly provoked a riposte. I (and I imagine most others) didn't read those as they were almost immediately deleted. Although Bluebell explained later the thrust of what she had said. I dislike discourtesy of any kind, but especially on a lighthearted thread like this where it is particularly inappropriate. So, I condemn Jo numbers' comment and I feel that it was correct that it should have been challenged. I didn't read those posts but Bags has probably forensically analysed the reasons why those posts went and Jo numbers' didn't.

bluebell Wed 15-May-13 22:17:56

But Ana people didn't see mine! And JOs interesting, helpful, witty, sophisticated post is still there. Also, I was responding to the comment she made to the new- now-apparently-ex member which several
people found unacceptable. But anyway Ana thank you SO much for that invaluable contribution to the discussion - very, very helpful

Ana Wed 15-May-13 22:21:21

Love the sarcasm, bluebell! You'll fit in really well on here...hmm

absent Wed 15-May-13 22:42:17

What the hell has happened to Gransnet? How can a new member be driven away in such a short space of time when all she did was post a FRIENDLY AND COMPLIMENTARY COMMENT on a chatty thread? What is going on? I have always resisted the references to playground behaviour when there has been disagreement on the forums but this is like something out of one of those silly teen movies. What a shame - and, indeed, how childish!

Aka Wed 15-May-13 22:56:32

Puerile.

nanaej Wed 15-May-13 23:04:50

giginanna don't be put off by thoughtless /unkind comments. Most GNers are more friendly. Welcome..hope to see you post again.

Nelliemoser Wed 15-May-13 23:15:18

I took Giginannas remarks as a slightly tongue in cheek way of saying she was just enjoying GN, but thought she ought to sound as if she was doing something useful, such as improving her mind.

Like others here desperately making excuse for not getting on with things.

Hello Giginannas Welcome to the art of time wasting. grin
Right now for me its going to bed.

Sel Wed 15-May-13 23:17:16

And gigi not everyone is sanctimonious grin