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Ding Dong .... round 2

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Riverwalk Wed 02-Apr-14 19:05:06

Clegg v. Farage

It's curious how these two minor politicians are taking centre stage!

whenim64 Wed 02-Apr-14 19:13:14

Farage not doing so well this time.

annodomini Wed 02-Apr-14 19:44:02

Could't bear to watch!

rosesarered Wed 02-Apr-14 20:19:10

couldn't be bothered to watch.

Riverwalk Wed 02-Apr-14 20:39:05

CBA to watch!

Ana Wed 02-Apr-14 20:40:13

Will read the reviews (from various viewpoints!)

Ana Wed 02-Apr-14 20:58:20

Not looking good for Clegg in the polls so far...

Penstemmon Wed 02-Apr-14 21:18:34

CBA..neither will be getting my vote anyway!

NanKate Wed 02-Apr-14 21:33:44

I love a good old political Argie Bargie !

I thought Dimbleby appeared a bit past it.

BlueBelle Wed 02-Apr-14 22:33:11

yuk yuk yuk too cringe worthy to watch can't bear that slimy manipulative F man

Ana Wed 02-Apr-14 22:46:15

Nick Clegg looked and sounded tired and jaded. Nigel Farage has nothing to lose - just like Nick in the pre-election debates.

POGS Wed 02-Apr-14 22:46:47

Sorry I was posting on the other Farage thread, then I could not post for while, frozen out.

I thought it was a bit more personal between them tonight.

Clegg was certainly rattled when the waiting media scrum interviewed him.

The YouGove vote goes to Farage 68% Clegg 27%. I thought it would be closer than that, quite surprised.

Both of them had good points and I don't know what I would vote given a referendum on the EU to be honest.

Lona Wed 02-Apr-14 22:58:46

Nick Clegg sounds as though he has come straight from a lesson in 'How to make a Party Political Broadcast', which makes Nigel Farage sound a whole lot sharper IMO.

NanKate Thu 03-Apr-14 09:45:46

I agree Lona.

BAnanas Thu 03-Apr-14 10:16:27

What I find so annoying about Nick Clegg, he no doubt sees himself as a libertarian, but seeks to deny all those who would wish to have a say on Europe via a referendum that choice. He comes across to me as somewhat patronising in his view point of "you don't really understand the benefits we receive from the European Union, and there is no down side" He just exemplifies the career politician. Don't ever forget this is the man who thought the pension was around £30 a week when asked a few years ago. Yeah Out of Touch doesn't even begin to describe Cleggie!

Aka Thu 03-Apr-14 10:38:05

“I know that men are won over less by the written than by the spoken word, that every great movement on this earth owes its growth to orators and not to great writers.” — Adolf Hitler, “Author’s Preface,” Mein Kampf (James Murphy trans., 1939)

goldengirl Thu 03-Apr-14 20:20:03

I admit to being more impressed with Farage last night but Aka's quote sends shivers down my spine........

Ana Thu 03-Apr-14 20:35:39

Niggle's hardly an aspiring Hitler, is he? hmm

Penstemmon Thu 03-Apr-14 21:02:58

Ana people found Hitler personable! & he is certainly no Gandhi is he!

absent Thu 03-Apr-14 21:09:52

My parents attended a Nazi rally while touring Europe in the late 1930s. My mother wrote in her diary that she felt quite inspired and excited by Hitler's words during the course of his speech but couldn't remember what he had actually said the next day.

Ana Thu 03-Apr-14 21:10:11

I'm sure you know what I mean, Penstemmon.

AlieOxon Thu 03-Apr-14 21:41:39

I think this man is very dangerous.

Penstemmon Thu 03-Apr-14 22:09:50

I agree AlieOxon

HollyDaze Fri 04-Apr-14 08:48:04

I disagree - he has brought to the forefront the discussion regarding Europe that much of the UK wanted to be involved in, that hardly makes him the next leader of the Nazi party. No-one is talking about him being the next Prime Minister either but many agree with him on his views on Europe and the EU.

He outshone Nick Clegg at both debates. Nick Clegg, like many politicians, has ended up believing his own spin. Judging from the state of Britain, none of them, who make the decisions, are fit for purpose.

Experigran Fri 04-Apr-14 09:16:49

People voted to join the Common Market, not the United States of Europe, which is the ultimate aim. How did the political side of this 'Common Market' come about? Most of the regulations that our businesses have to adhere to come from these regulations. I understand that you have to make sure that the goods you produce for a particular market have to match the consumers' requirements, but this has always been the case. I lived in Australia when the UK joined the Common Market. They turned their back on a huge Commonwealth trade and were very much disliked for jeapordising jobs there. It must have had the same effect for the rest of the Commonwealth. They simply went out and sold to other countries, like Japan and China. No doubt we would do the same.

As for defence, our Armed Forces have been cut back to the minimum. Our new aircraft carriers are being built to carry French planes. If that is not to build up a European Defence Force I don't know what is. If that is the way forward, then so be it. I doubt I will have to worry about it, but if it is not what you want for your grandchildren, then please wake up and take note. don't just listen to what the politicians tell you, look, listen and think for yourself.