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Sending a Hug to the Keyboard Warriors

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Notinthemanual Sat 14-Nov-20 08:20:26

That was quite a week for unpleasantness. I’ve wondered why some Grans are that way. Do they feel unheard IRL and vent their frustration here?

I saw an anecdote elsewhere recently… A mother had told her young son off for being cruel to his school friends. The child replied “They are dumb, and they need to know that.” I’ve known some really smart, self-reliant, resilient, well-dressed adults who never needed to make sure everyone knew that are others were less so. They had healthy self-esteem, compassion and were wise enough to know that not everyone’s reality is the same.

There are ways to disagree without being disagreeable. There is a preview box. And of course, the guideline to not say something that you wouldn’t say face to face. Perhaps those Grans are as forthright with people they barely know IRL. Perhaps that is why they are here.

I don’t take the good advice to just skip past their posts – I think I have some fascination with the horrible. But I have come to a new conclusion. IMO those Grans need a hug. I’m sending love and smiling; imagining them indignantly trying to bat it away with a fly swatter; my good wishes drifting through the mesh and settling on them.

It also occurred to me that they might just need to up their fluid and vegetable intake.

Thankfully, those Grans are a tiny minority. The rest of you lovely people brighten my day with your kindness, wisdom and good humour.

GrannyLaine Sat 14-Nov-20 12:39:58

suziewoozie

GrannyLaine

As perhaps could you suziewoozie.
A large part of the problem is that some read posts to really listen to what is being said and others read to respond with their own agenda.
Just like in real life

Oh dear - again, well done OP

Twist and deflect. I rest my case.

suziewoozie Sat 14-Nov-20 12:42:48

GrannyLaine

suziewoozie

GrannyLaine

As perhaps could you suziewoozie.
A large part of the problem is that some read posts to really listen to what is being said and others read to respond with their own agenda.
Just like in real life

Oh dear - again, well done OP

Twist and deflect. I rest my case.

So do I. Utte4 nonsense all this - thanks again OP. Well done .

trisher Sat 14-Nov-20 12:44:14

Anniebach

trisher you missed off your list posters in your opinion are
‘Embittered old crones ‘.

Oh I think I covered them Annie -pain? ass?

GrannyGravy13 Sat 14-Nov-20 12:50:09

It is perfectly possible to disagree with a post/poster without being rude or resort to name calling and personal attacks.

I am going to use another posters analogy play the ball not the (wo)man

Chewbacca Sat 14-Nov-20 12:51:21

It's been interesting to see who has found this thread as an opportunity to speak about how they've found GN in general to be recently and who has found the thread to be irksome and hostile towards them.

Galaxy Sat 14-Nov-20 12:54:11

I havent found it hostile to me but I still find it deeply unpleasant.

Anniebach Sat 14-Nov-20 12:55:13

Not possible for some GranyGravy and this is why this forum has hit the depths

GrannyGravy13 Sat 14-Nov-20 12:58:55

Anniebach I am extremely grateful for the kindness you gave to me when I dipped my toe into a political thread for the first time.

Lucca Sat 14-Nov-20 13:12:23

Anniebach

trisher you missed off your list posters in your opinion are
‘Embittered old crones ‘.

.to quote Namsnanny......”some of the difficulties lie in dragging past problems into new “

Lucca Sat 14-Nov-20 13:13:21

trisher

The interesting thing I've discovered is that there are posters I wildly disagree with but respect because they have firmly held views (even if they are wrong), posters I share some common ground with but disagree on other things, posters who think and believe like me, and posters who, quite frankly, I find a pain in the ass.

Absolutely this.

Anniebach Sat 14-Nov-20 13:15:53

GrannyGravy I remember that thread, it was vicious. So glad
you rose above it x

suziewoozie Sat 14-Nov-20 13:18:01

Lucca

trisher

The interesting thing I've discovered is that there are posters I wildly disagree with but respect because they have firmly held views (even if they are wrong), posters I share some common ground with but disagree on other things, posters who think and believe like me, and posters who, quite frankly, I find a pain in the ass.

Absolutely this.

I would expand this to include the statement posters who value truth and factual accuracy when putting forward their views and opinions.

trisher Sat 14-Nov-20 13:36:57

Thanks I'd have to add that suziewoozie and the posters who are knowledgeable about something and share their expertise. I've learned lots on GN.

Galaxy Sat 14-Nov-20 13:44:47

And what I would say is there are posters who I disagree with completely on a number of issues and we have had some fairly 'to the point' debates but I dont think any less of those posters, I admire them putting forward their beliefs even if it on occasion ends up with us being a little snippy towards each other. I much prefer that to this below the radar stuff.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 14-Nov-20 13:54:52

I also think that because we cannot see posters facial expressions or here the tone of their voices it is extremely easy to misinterpret the feeling of some posts.

Maggiemaybe Sat 14-Nov-20 14:06:30

Galaxy

I think be kind is one of the worst pieces of advice ever to take hold. Everyone has a different idea of be kind.

This. ^

And surely I’m not the only one thinking that GN is a much less “unkind” place than it once was, when some proper sharks roamed the waters and even robust members entered the Politics threads at their own risk? They’re all gone as far as I know (and I’m not naming names for that very reason).

What we really don’t need is everyone piling in when somebody is upset by a minor criticism, without even reading the offending comment, which is what happens so often now. If somebody’s really out of order, confront them directly or report and let GN deal with it. But let’s not call someone vile, cruel or a bully (all terms used on here) without very good reason.

Please God don’t anyone offer me a hug. grin

suziewoozie Sat 14-Nov-20 14:11:36

Galaxy

And what I would say is there are posters who I disagree with completely on a number of issues and we have had some fairly 'to the point' debates but I dont think any less of those posters, I admire them putting forward their beliefs even if it on occasion ends up with us being a little snippy towards each other. I much prefer that to this below the radar stuff.

There’s a great deal of under the radar stuff mostly practiced by those who rush to say how nasty GN has become and how mean people are to be critical of lies and/or false or misleading information. They confuse ( deliberately or otherwise) being criticised or corrected with being bullied or abused. I’ve no patience at all with posters who through laziness, maliciousness or stupidity post false information on important issues like vaccines, lockdown rules, legal or financial issues. I’m not going to pussyfoot around a grown women who thinks it doesn’t matter what she posts is factually true or not and especially when said grown woman then bleats about a ‘certain poster’ being mean to her.

It’s one thing having an opinion on for example abortion ( to choose a nice uncontentious example) but quite another to make false claims about the number or abortions or the stage at which they are carried out.

Lucca Sat 14-Nov-20 14:21:47

Yes Galaxy, spot on.

seamstress Sat 14-Nov-20 14:38:13

I've no idea what or who this thread is about but I think the OP has made some smug, virtue signalling remarks about unnamed people which seems to have backfired on him/herself. Talk about high horses. I suppose I will now get a hug for being unpleasant. I don't need one , thanks. Its not personal, its about the remarks.

rafichagran Sat 14-Nov-20 14:42:58

A very strange original post, I found it unnecessary, it was patronising and presumptuous about other posters. All this let's give them a hug is annoying.
The poster is either quite naive, or was it to cause trouble, because when I first read it I knew what the reaction would be, I have to say I just thought the poster came across as smug.

25Avalon Sat 14-Nov-20 14:52:23

There are posters whose views I don’t agree with who post links supporting their views. I like to read those links as even if I disagree I find they are still very interesting and thought provoking.

Lucca Sat 14-Nov-20 14:53:27

Maggiemaybe..... so temped to offer you a
Ok I won’t.

kircubbin2000 Sat 14-Nov-20 15:21:13

As usual I'm late to the party. I only look at a few of the active threads each day and seem to have missed something. No idea what this refers to or who the bad grand are!

kircubbin2000 Sat 14-Nov-20 15:26:55

Grans.

phoenix Sat 14-Nov-20 15:30:03

Hmm. Not quite sure how to take this, although of course, sending hugs to anyone is commendable.