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MissAdventure Wed 18-Nov-20 12:49:23

Do you believe that "what goes around, comes around"?

Is it just the consequences of our actions that catch up with us, naturally, or is there a more organised system of ensuring people reap what they sow?

Or, is it a load of twaddle?

Flowitree Thu 19-Nov-20 10:26:31

Very good explanation here of what karma is and how to change it from
a Buddhist perspective httpp://buddhisminwestminster.org/changing-karma-by-dr-kawada-sgi-vice-president/

Sadgrandma Thu 19-Nov-20 10:25:52

Is coronavirus natures way of punishing humankind for the way we treat our world?

Coconut Thu 19-Nov-20 10:23:33

I think many people would apply for the job as a Karma delivery driver ?. We live is such a beautiful world but it’s so marred by the evil it contains in so many people.

Athenia Thu 19-Nov-20 10:21:24

I often reflect on this aspect of our lives. What I have realised is that we do create our own emotional resonance by the choices we make about how to live. When I stop my car at a pedestrian crossing, the smile I sometimes receive is a lovely thank you. If I help a stranger with no thought of return, the feeling i have is so good! So this, in itself, is a law, that we create our own emotional well-being by how we relate to those around us, and to ourselves. It comes from being able to love ourselves first, and from that springs our desire to be a blessing to others. People who are destructive to others are usually hurting inside themselves. Humans naturally help and cooperate with each other, and that has been proven by experiments with very young chi;ldren, even if our materialistic society would like us to think otherwise. If we act and live in a way that is considerate to others, we ourselves reap the reward. Right living, with a clear conscience is its own reward. So that, to me, is the law of Karma in action.

Phloembundle Thu 19-Nov-20 10:21:17

I absolutely 100% believe in karma because it happened to me, and resulted in me having to save someone's life in reparation for something bad I had done to them.

Dee1012 Thu 19-Nov-20 10:15:23

I'm conflicted over it...my Mum was a genuinely good person but suffered horribly during the last five years of her life. She was only in her 40s when she died.
Her sister however was awful, she was nasty, vindictive, immoral and caused havoc within the family.
For a long time (and I do feel guilty and sad about my feelings!), I couldn't understand why my Mum had experienced so much sadness, ill health etc and her sister just sailed through life and actually appeared to have a lot of "luck", I was actually quite angry about it for a long time too although I think a lot of that was more about the loss of my Mum.
Fast forward to now....my Aunt isn't in good health and her actions have left her pretty much alone in life.
She really has reaped what she sowed!

Astral Thu 19-Nov-20 10:10:43

Karma is for the next life, so there is no way of knowing but reason to be hopeful

DaisyL Thu 19-Nov-20 10:01:04

Not sure I believe in Karma, but but I do think that living well is the best revenge and as the wise old Buddha said 'Anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die'. We can only live our own lives and if we are lucky enough to be happy we should appreciate that. I don't believe that bad people, even if they are rich and successful on the outside, can be truly happy - that comes from inner peace and people with terrible disabilities can be very happy and millionaires miserable.

mernice Thu 19-Nov-20 10:00:40

Hi, from a Buddhist point of view Karma is not a punishment and not decided on by any supernatural being. It is a question of cause and effect. Every action, thought and word registers on our subtle mind and creates an imprint which goes with us to other lives where the reaction (Karma) takes place. So we sometimes see immediate Karma, sometimes not in this life.
It seems to answer for me why some people have charmed lives, others such difficult times. Seems more plausible to me than it being random. NB It really isn’t a punishment.......cause and effect. We are in charge of our own lives. ??

mrsgreenfingers56 Thu 19-Nov-20 10:00:35

I do wish it was true for such people as Peter Sutcliffe and Myra Hindley, OK they aren't here now but boy do I wish something gross had happened to those two.

RosesAreRed21 Thu 19-Nov-20 09:57:27

No I dont believe in it at all. People that do bad things just seem to flow through life and get away with it.

FannyCornforth Thu 19-Nov-20 09:56:41

DevilsDumplings - your username has made me smile!
Miriam Margoles and Tim McInerney in those ridiculous costumes! grin

Frankie51 Thu 19-Nov-20 09:55:53

Unfortunately scum rises to the top, and is applauded and admired , many horrible people seem to live a charmed life. Not sure I believe in Karma. Would love it to be real.

DevilsDumplings Thu 19-Nov-20 09:53:35

Hi OP

I’d love the concept of Karma to be real but alas personal experience says it doesn’t. Unfortunately life is unjustifiably unfair at times.

Moggycuddler Thu 19-Nov-20 09:50:07

Don't believe in karma because it would imply a god or controlling/overseeing force, which I can't accept.

Alegrias2 Thu 19-Nov-20 09:46:51

Having watched Cocopop's linked video, I discovered that Karma isn't what I thought it was.

The idea of the universe exacting revenge or rewarding the virtuous is undoubtedly twaddle, but our actions governing our happiness is probably spot on. Forgive me if I've simplified this too much Cocopops!

Shortlegs Thu 19-Nov-20 09:43:00

I suspect the karma, similar to superstition, religion etc, is twaddle.

CocoPops Thu 19-Nov-20 06:39:18

I believe in Karma and follow Buddhism. Here is a short explanation of Karma
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH42iCDom50

Fecklar Thu 19-Nov-20 05:58:35

I think COVID has been a Karma in a way for a lot of people I knew. Note knew being past tense. Sadly it’s also been a bad thing happening to good people in many cases too.

FannyCornforth Thu 19-Nov-20 03:43:55

Eileen Drury was the woman whose ideas Hoddle subscribed to, and tried to apply to the England football teamconfused

FannyCornforth Thu 19-Nov-20 03:26:56

MissAdventure

It's really interesting waffling.
Now then, could being born in such dire circumstances be karmic retribution for bad deeds in a former life?

This is really dangerous thinking.
Are disabled people being punished for past deeds?
People who die young?
People who are abused?

Do you remember Glenn Hoddle and his spiritual mentor Eileen something or other? He got into a lot of bother for believing this nonsense.

So no. I don't believe in karma.

MissAdventure Wed 18-Nov-20 23:07:16

I really enjoy your stories, that probably isn't the right word for them, rosecarmel.

Namsnanny Wed 18-Nov-20 23:06:28

I enjoyed reading that rosecarmel smile

rosecarmel Wed 18-Nov-20 23:00:13

I agree, Namsnanny- And as a result was taught the most basic view -- so not to confuse- (me .. personally ..)

"When an old farmer’s stallion wins a prize at a country show, his neighbour calls round to congratulate him, but the old farmer says, “Who knows what is good and what is bad?”

The next day some thieves come and steal his valuable animal. His neighbour comes to commiserate with him, but the old man replies, “Who knows what is good and what is bad?”

A few days later the spirited stallion escapes from the thieves and joins a herd of wild mares, leading them back to the farm. The neighbour calls to share the farmer’s joy, but the farmer says, “Who knows what is good and what is bad?”

The following day, while trying to break in one of the mares, the farmer’s son is thrown and fractures his leg. The neighbour calls to share the farmer’s sorrow, but the old man’s attitude remains the same as before.

The following week the army passes by, forcibly conscripting soldiers for the war, but they do not take the farmer’s son because he cannot walk. The neighbour thinks to himself, “Who knows what is good and what is bad?”

Namsnanny Wed 18-Nov-20 22:28:47

rosecarmel ... depends what religion you choose to follow.