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2beautBrownies Tue 09-Feb-21 19:09:43

My grand daughter 2 has just begun to refuse to take part in video calls. The older girl 7 will have very stilted conversations. I understand that their lives are very stressful with homeschooling etc but their parents understandably do not want to put pressure on them. Indeed their mother herself leaves the room. It is so heartbreaking to hear the younger girl say no I don't want to talk to granny. They are my world. It is made worse by the fact that the other grandparent visits almost daily.

BlueSky Tue 09-Feb-21 20:37:14

Most children are like that, I wouldn’t force it, how often are you calling? The fact that the girls’ mother leaves the room herself shows your calls are perhaps too often and intrusive. Just cool it down, let them call you when they are ready.

Marydoll Tue 09-Feb-21 20:39:34

Listening to my friends, I think this is normal. The last time we did a Zoom call , my five year old granddaughter spoke to us for five minutes and then proceeded to read her new Beano comic! We couldn't stop laughing.

Tangerine Tue 09-Feb-21 20:39:53

I think it is probably hard for a little girl of 2 to engage on a video call.

When I look back to myself at 7, I don't think I'd have found it easy to talk naturally to my grandparents in such a way. They were all lovely but it would have been difficult. I don't even think I could have spoken easily to them over the phone.

Marydoll Tue 09-Feb-21 20:41:58

My aunt used to telephone my mother every Sunday and I always was asked to speak to her. I never knew what to say to her as child and dreaded those calls.

tobyandsocks Tue 09-Feb-21 20:44:59

We zoom call our Grandsons,aged 8 and 11....they are happy to talk and pull faces at us for about 5 mins,at most,then just say "I am bored now bye.." and off they go....our Son ends up talking to us for the rest of the call???...at least we see our Grandsons and get to see their smiley faces if only for a few minutes❤

cornishpatsy Tue 09-Feb-21 21:02:22

It might work better if the children were told they could contact you when they want to rather than you contacting them when they may be doing other things. Even better if the parents could sometimes ask if they want to show you a drawing or tell you about something they had done.

Forced conversations are usually questions from the grandparent answered with one word, if they wanted to tell you something the conversation may flow better.

It will be much better face to face, not too long now.

Jaxjacky Tue 09-Feb-21 21:41:28

Young children are easily distracted, it used to happen us when we video called when we lived abroad. It’s harsh, but you aren’t their world, they’ll have lots more going on and I’m sure you wouldn’t want them made to stay. As suggested, maybe they could call you when they have something special to share as cornishpasty suggested. It won’t be forever, although it feels like it.

SueDonim Tue 09-Feb-21 21:47:17

That sounds entirely normal, I’d say. My two sets of two GC (aged between 3 - 11) are like action motion background figures as they sail past the screen numerous times, yelling passing comments about this, that and the other. I did get to speak to the friend of one of them recently, though! grin

My youngest GC, just three, engages with me, mainly to shout ‘NANNA, GET A BOOK AND READ IT TO ME! NANNA WHEN CAN I COME FOR A SLEEPOVER? NANNA, I WANT TO TALK TO THE CATS NOW!’ grin

Scentia Tue 09-Feb-21 22:23:48

I tried to do a video call with my DGS nearly 2 and he took the phone and ‘lobbed’ it across the room. I think they are children and really don’t think like adults do. Don’t overthink it all OP. Very normal child behaviour. Don’t take it personally ❤️

2beautBrownies Wed 10-Feb-21 09:28:52

Thanks for these responses. I am sure that the only contact with our grandchildren via video calls is causing anxiety in many cases. It is the only contact so of course it creates issues. I ask for a call every fortnight so it is not a case of overload. The children are asked if they want to speak and they say no. The bond of course is broken. I used to ask to see their toys as a topic to gain their interest.Sometimes I merely ask to say hello to them or wish them sweet dreams. The bond of course has diminished so much that I appear like a stranger. If short video calls are not working it is a case of hoping to rebuild a bond hopefully when I can see them outside.

LizM567 Thu 11-Feb-21 10:16:17

We have a 2 year old grandson. We speak to him twice a week on WhatsApp while he's having his tea in his highchair. After he's had his tea we continue with him showing us his toys etc (still in his highchair) until he gets bored or tired and ready for his bath. This last 40 minutes max. He seems to enjoy engaging with us and we love it of course. Hope this helps.

GolferGrandma Thu 11-Feb-21 10:18:33

My DS & family live in Italy and obviously there is no chance of meeting up currently so FaceTime (video calls) are all that are possible. GD is nearly 10, GS 8 and both spend most of their time “passing by” with a wave, while my DS and I chat. I always get that wave at least but rarely spend much time talking with them. Sometimes they will show me something they have been working on and talk about school, but quite briefly. I just accept that and am grateful I can at least see them regularly.

grandtanteJE65 Thu 11-Feb-21 10:19:35

I am certain that I would not have wanted to use Zoom when I was little. I found the telephone quite bad enough.

Your grandchildren are reacting to the situation, not expressing a dislike of you.

Call your daughter for the next while and don't ask to speak to the children, just send your love to them.

jaylucy Thu 11-Feb-21 10:19:42

It's no different from a phone conversation! I can remember more than one time when my son / nephew/niece would refuse to come to the phone to speak to me - or I just got a "hello" followed quickly by "Bye"!
Doesn't mean anything , nothing against you, they just don't feel like talking to anyone at that time .
Nothing worse than being made to speak to someone - I can remember as a child how I was often scolded by my mother for not speaking to relatives while we were out because I was painfully shy !

NotSpaghetti Thu 11-Feb-21 10:20:07

I think 5 mins is a long time for a child via zoom (or facetime or whatever).
We have tiny chats with our grandchildren when they want to show us what they are doing - "Look I'm doing my maths in just my pants!" or "I'm giving my snowman lots of arms". The very small ones (three and under) are offered the phone by their mum/dad to show finger painting or puddle splashing or whatever.

Maybe this is a solution for your family? It does mean it's more often but very very short. There is hardly any chatting with the parents but they seem to like it this way as it doesn't eat into their day in big chunks.

Nannapat1 Thu 11-Feb-21 10:20:08

I'd say it's unrealistic to expect a 2 year old to engage in a video call. The 7 year old yes, but even then it's not easy. Sometimes my 6 year old DGD does not want to take a call, video or otherwise from Mummy and that certainly isn't because she doesn't love her and being with her.

Moggycuddler Thu 11-Feb-21 10:20:28

It must be upsetting for you. But remember that small children don't mean a lot of the things they say. When they say they don't want to talk to Granny, they don't mean they don't love you, just that at that particular moment they wanted to play with their toys or watch the telly. Young children live in the moment. And at that age, the concept of video calls probably doesn't seem quite real, like seeing you in person. I'm sure the bond will be re-forged in better times. Try not to worry.

Willow500 Thu 11-Feb-21 10:25:26

My two grandsons (now 5 & 7) live in NZ so other than the couple of times they've been over here FaceTime is the only way we have communication with them. They have only just begun to occasionally have a conversation with us - most of the time they're too busy playing or racing round. I have tried engaging them with puppets or story books but they're far too energetic to be interested - the elder one has Aspergers so unless it's something he's currently fascinated with it's not easy to talk to him.

I wouldn't be too upset by your GD's refusal to talk to you as at 2 she probably doesn't understand. Hopefully once you are able to visit things will be much better.

GardenofEngland Thu 11-Feb-21 10:27:18

My 2yr old grandson is ok when he is having his tea in his highchair early evening. At other times he sees it as a opportunity to create havoc if I'm speaking to his mumsmile

Peasblossom Thu 11-Feb-21 10:29:19

Children don’t really do extended conversation. It’s an adult thing. Watch seven year olds playing together. It’s mostly action with a few exchanged comments about what they are doing. Two year olds mostly talk to themselves?

The calls need to be about doing something. There’s a vast range of online games you could play with the seven year old. I’m heavily into Stone Age at the moment! And it’s not always me that requests the call.

I’d just be content to watch the two year old pottering about. You may feel there’s not much of a bond at the moment but there’s plenty of time to build that in the future. A three year old won’t remember that you didn’t see him when he was two.

Alison333 Thu 11-Feb-21 10:29:20

2BeautBrownies, please don't be upset.

As others have said, this is entirely normal for these ages. I think they get distracted by their own images and all the exciting buttons. What if you said they could phone you at an arranged time if they wanted to talk? The parent phones and hands the phone over. No distractions, and somehow less forced because they have something to say to you.

Also, if they are seeing the other grandparent every day, you will seem more exciting and interesting when the lockdown finishes!

Daffydilly Thu 11-Feb-21 10:30:37

My 3 and a half year old grandson just dips in and out of video calls as he feels like it. He usually 'arrives' quite early on, shows me what he's doing then wanders off when he's done. In between I speak to the grown ups.

My son and daughter in law put no pressure on and it just works.

Now, if I could just manage to train my son not to video call out of the blue when I'm in the bath or on the loo, I'll have it sorted.

TillyWhiz Thu 11-Feb-21 10:36:19

I do feel for you but it is very boring for little ones who don't like sitting still for too long. I assume you are Skyping or Zooming. We find Whatsapp works better where during a video call you can play virtual games with them or there are funny special effects (face changes, funny hats etc) which will be more fun for the children. Even the adults have had lots of fun with it! Also how about sending a Granny parcel with little treats once a month or so. My grandchildren overseas really love these no matter how small the gifts are and the letter I send with clip art pictures is read at bedtime.

timetogo2016 Thu 11-Feb-21 10:42:04

Don`t take it to heart 2bB.
That`s typical behaviour of little ones,i think i would have been the same tbh.