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Newatthis Fri 13-Aug-21 11:43:51

I have just read that in the USA in some cities they are banning people from entering restaurants, gyms and indoor space without vaccine proof. Everybody has their reason for not wanting the vaccination but I agree with what their doing by banning people. I was unsure about getting the vaccine myself, afraid of side effects etc but I went ahead, not just for me but for all those around me. I am not sure I would want to be in an enclosed, indoor space with those who choose not to be vaccinated especially as there are so many who have made this choice because of all the silly conspiracy theories, or, in a friends case political (she is a Republican) and has lost her ability to make rational decisions about anything as she only listens to the politicians.

maddyone Mon 23-Aug-21 10:06:57

I have just read on my iPad that a 35 year old mother of four, including a brand new baby she never saw, died of Covid, contracted whilst she was pregnant. She was unvaccinated! The husband was pleading with people to get vaccinated. They live in Northern Ireland.
How devastatingly sad this is. Four children left without a mother. A husband without his life partner. A family left devastated. Pregnant women are at particular risk from Covid and the vaccine has been shown to be safe for pregnant women. The mother never saw her new baby girl. There are no words to describe the sadness of this situation, all for the lack of a clinically proven, safe vaccine.

Kryptonite Mon 23-Aug-21 10:10:13

Silversmith: Thank you for your detailed post. I hope you can see my screenshots. This is the Government weekly Yellow Card reporting published every Thursday. Nothing helps me really because somebody will be unlucky in this and it could be me. I get plenty of bad luck as it is. Having the first jab nearly finished me off in anxiety alone. Thanks anyway.

Silverbridge Mon 23-Aug-21 11:14:14

Thank you for posting this Kryptonite. I see now where your number comes from:

www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting

However, the report contains much explanatory information about these numbers and states:

Anyone who experienced cerebral or other major blood clots occurring with low levels of platelets after their first vaccine dose of COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca should not have their second dose. Anyone who did not have these side effects should come forward for their second dose when invited.

You are in that second category but I don't think here is anything more I can say to convince you that the risk of you getting VITT from that second dose is tiny.

grannysyb Mon 23-Aug-21 11:21:11

My DD had a blood clot after a skiing accident, both her jabs were AstraZeneca, she didn't think twice about having her vaccination.

JenniferEccles Mon 23-Aug-21 11:38:52

That’s a desperately sad story maddyone
If only people stuck to the facts, the hard statistical facts detailing the minuscule risks versus massive benefits of getting vaccinated, these tragedies wouldn’t happen.

Sparklefizz Mon 23-Aug-21 11:38:58

I have no patience with those who choose not to get vaccinated as I have 2 grandchildren who are poorly with Covid, and the youngest one is really quite ill. He hurts all over from head to foot, and it even hurts him to move his eyes!!! I am worried to bits.

welbeck Mon 23-Aug-21 14:49:31

Kryptonite, you speak of someone being the unlucky one, and that you are prone to bad luck.
how come you are not concerned at the greater risk of getting the virus, and of having to be hospitalised if you get it, risk of it causing blood clots, etc.
you are at much greater risk of getting the virus if you are unvaccinated, and of it hitting you much harder, than if you had been fully vaccinated.
anyway, at least you've had one dose. half a loaf...

welbeck Mon 23-Aug-21 14:52:00

Maddyone, it is so sad, and so wrong that people are suffering because others are talking rubbish, conspiracy theories etc.
careless talk costs lives.
indeed. and malicious, deliberately misleading talk.

maddyone Mon 23-Aug-21 17:39:35

Yes, a very small number will unfortunately die from a blood clot after vaccination but every day some people will die in road accidents but we don’t stop driving or walking about, every day some people will accidents in the home but we don’t stop living in houses with electricity and other dangerous products, every day people die from alcoholism/diseases caused by alcohol but we don’t all stop drinking alcohol, and every day roughly one hundred people die of Covid and the vast majority of them are unvaccinated. You have far more chance of getting Covid if you’re unvaccinated, and far more chance of ending up in hospital with Covid if you’re unvaccinated. The vast majority of patients in ICU with Covid are unvaccinated. 130,000 people in Britain have died of Covid, but 130,000 have not died from blood clots caused by vaccination. Which is the greater risk?

nanaK54 Mon 23-Aug-21 17:48:49

Sparklefizz

I have no patience with those who choose not to get vaccinated as I have 2 grandchildren who are poorly with Covid, and the youngest one is really quite ill. He hurts all over from head to foot, and it even hurts him to move his eyes!!! I am worried to bits.

I'm so sorry to read this, sending kindest thoughts to you and your dear grandchildren flowers