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lemsip Sat 15-Jan-22 23:22:24

Give me back my bodyguards: Prince Harry threatens legal action against the government and demands return of police protection because 'it is not safe for the Sussexes to return to UK for visits'

seacliff Sun 16-Jan-22 09:34:32

I bet Harry is really missing his involvement with the military, after that very different Californian life. It meant a lot to him. Now Andrew has been removed as "head " of so many institutions, Harry must be feeling a bit wistful, seeing all those opportunities going begging.

Msida Sun 16-Jan-22 09:43:41

They both have acted like stroppy teenagers. What a great difference between the actions of William and Kate and Harry and Megan

William and Kate have gone out of their way to support Britain in this crisis were Harry and Megan have selfishly stopped off to America with no regard for anyone but themselves

When you have had such a priveldged life thanks to British tax payers you really ought to have a little more respect

Josieann Sun 16-Jan-22 09:49:37

Did anyone read Harry's statement in the link provided by lemsip? Amongst all the waffle this jumped out to me.

^The goal for Prince Harry has been simple – to ensure the safety of himself and his family while in the UK so his children can know his home country.
The UK will always be Prince Harry’s home and a country he wants his wife and children to be safe in. With the lack of police protection, comes too great a personal risk.^

So every time he comes "home" he will always require this protection for himself and his family.

Shropshirelass Sun 16-Jan-22 09:52:34

He was chased by paparazzi last year which must have been very frightening for him after what happened to his mother. However, the have courted the press and have to expect this interest.

This is the headline this morning

The Duke of Sussex has filed a claim for a judicial review against a Home Office decision not to allow him to personally pay for police protection for himself and his family while in the UK.

He wants to pay for his own protection and does not want the British taxpayer to foot the bill.

25Avalon Sun 16-Jan-22 09:56:13

Perhaps it’s an excuse not to come. Then we can be blamed.

Anniebach Sun 16-Jan-22 09:58:37

He really isn’t the brightest coin in the mint.

Chestnut Sun 16-Jan-22 10:01:06

I'm going to stick my head above the parapet and say I think he should be able to pay for Police protection whilst here in the UK.

Whatever we think of him, he and his children are direct blood line to the Queen and if they had stayed here would have had Police protection round the clock. They are only going to be here for a few days, would it really be too much to provide that protection for such a short time? They won't be here for weeks or months. And it won't come free.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 16-Jan-22 10:05:06

If one person is allowed to hire the police for their own protection it sets a precedent for others rich enough to do so. He’s made his choice. Now he must live with the consequences.

Josieann Sun 16-Jan-22 10:08:11

They are only going to be here for a few days, would it really be too much to provide that protection for such a short time? They won't be here for weeks or months.
I sort of agree on this very special occasion Chestnut, but as someone mentioned above it will set a precedent. It isn't just for a few days, it is for every time he comes "home" according to his statement.

Josieann Sun 16-Jan-22 10:08:56

X post Germanshepherdsmum.

maddyone Sun 16-Jan-22 10:11:38

He’s made his choice. Now he must live with the consequences.

Exactly!

Lincslass Sun 16-Jan-22 10:12:03

Chestnut

I'm going to stick my head above the parapet and say I think he should be able to pay for Police protection whilst here in the UK.

Whatever we think of him, he and his children are direct blood line to the Queen and if they had stayed here would have had Police protection round the clock. They are only going to be here for a few days, would it really be too much to provide that protection for such a short time? They won't be here for weeks or months. And it won't come free.

Think he means his own personal protection, if from US will it mean they will be allowed guns. If that’s what he wants, then definitely a no from me. If he had behaved reasonably, along with his wife , as has his brother, there would not have been this problem. Will they be expecting a pomp welcome from a country they so obviously despise.

Blossoming Sun 16-Jan-22 10:24:33

Bingo!

GagaJo Sun 16-Jan-22 10:25:40

He is still a prince. He is still the brother of the future king of England. The son of the future king of England. Clearly, there is a threat. He is not the average 'private citizen'.

He is still British. He should be able to visit the UK. I've lived abroad for many years (added up, easily comes to much more than a decade). Should I not have been allowed to return to the UK?

If he comes home without armed security, and there is an incident and he/Meghan or children are killed, will you say it served him right? What about if his unarmed body guards are killed?

He's not asking for a freebie.

Chestnut Sun 16-Jan-22 10:28:16

Germanshepherdsmum

If one person is allowed to hire the police for their own protection it sets a precedent for others rich enough to do so. He’s made his choice. Now he must live with the consequences.

Not at all. It isn't because he's rich, it's because he and his children are direct line to the throne. We won't be letting wealthy people hire out the Police whenever they choose.

GagaJo Sun 16-Jan-22 10:30:02

Exactly Chestnut.

I really do wonder how the 'it serves him right' believers would feel if one of his little family were killed. Or one or more of his bodyguards.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 16-Jan-22 10:33:58

Your situation is very different Gaga. Harry enjoyed a life of privilege as part of the RF, with which came obligations, and turned his back on it all. He is not a working royal and should not have police protection just because he is the son of one future king and brother of another. Other non-working royals don’t have police protection. I see no reason why he should be treated any differently. He knows the risks if he decides to visit the country he turned his back on. Entirely his choice.

GagaJo Sun 16-Jan-22 10:36:28

There is not the same level of threat for the others. They also did not lose their mother due to the same level of hostility and media obsession in the way he did.

I'll ask a direct question this time (something I don't like doing on GN really).

If you think he shouldn't have this protection and people die as a result, will you still blame H&M?

lemsip Sun 16-Jan-22 10:39:57

Harry and Boris have something in common. .... they have 'back seat drivers' ....so to speak.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 16-Jan-22 10:40:52

Chestnut Harry might be in the line of succession but ahead of him are Charles, William and William’s three children. So it’s a bit of a fiction and that would be a pretty tenuous argument to run against the next rich person wanting to hire the police. As I have already said, allowing him to do that would set a precedent. And it wouldn’t be acceptable for the taxpayer to foot the bill. If he doesn’t think his private security people - who should not be armed - can protect him and his family adequately then he has the option of staying in the US.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 16-Jan-22 10:41:52

To answer your question Gaga, yes.

Josieann Sun 16-Jan-22 10:42:48

I was thinking, IF Meghan becomes a very important politician in USA (as is mooted), and then visits Harry's homeland with the family, they won't have to worry about British police protection at all They can borrow Biden's 17 car cavalcade that came to Cornwall!

icanhandthemback Sun 16-Jan-22 10:43:00

Isn't it a funny thing that the like of Maxine Carr, the boys that killed Jamie Bulgar and other such criminals get a fortune spent on them keeping them safe, giving them new lives all at the tax payers expense. However, a man who has given public service, fought for his country and used as an heir for the country's royalty until he was no longer required cannot pay for proper protection by armed police.
Harry has chosen to live abroad like many other British Citizens but they are not accused of turning their back on Britain. They have been entitled to British pensions, etc in a lot of cases and yet Harry is seen as treacherous.

Chestnut Sun 16-Jan-22 10:43:08

H&M are very high profile people and disliked by many here. That makes them a target unlike other working Royals. It only takes one nutter. I would not want them killed as a result of having no Police security.

Josieann Sun 16-Jan-22 10:43:47

lemsip

Harry and Boris have something in common. .... they have 'back seat drivers' ....so to speak.

Yes, grin