Beautiful memorial service for Prince Philip

maddyone

Your comment Whitewave clearly shows that you do not have any compassion for a young woman crying because she misses her grandfather, simply because she’s very privileged in terms of monetary wealth.
If you prick her, she will still bleed. It was a nasty comment and I’m not the only one who has called you out for it.

Well there is a massive assumption.

I did not mention the woman’s wealth, simply that my compassion for her, matched her compassion for the young woman trying to manage.

Some believe money protects from emotional pain.

I have criticised Harry for the Oprah interview and public criticism of his father and grandparents method of parenting.

I don’t recall Beatrice giving interviews or writing books.

Those two sisters have suffered so much yet remain loyal to
their parents and grandparents, this cannot be said of H & M.

volver

Well, maybe some people dislike the York girls.

It doesn't matter. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

Oh , but they were so marvellous in The Windsors!

I understand your point volver but can’t answer your question. You’d have to ask someone who has said something horrid about H+M.
I’ll have a guess though. Some people dislike H+M because they have left the job, the royal family job, and because of the interview in which they criticised the royal family. However I’m not sure that Beatrice has left the job (she has never had a royal family job anyway) nor done an interview critical of her family (but could hardly blame her if she did given her father’s antics) but has instead appeared to behave in an entirely appropriate way as far as we know.
When I see someone crying and upset due to a death in the family I feel compassion for that person whoever they are. Death is part of life, but it is a difficult part of life. I felt for Beatrice when I saw her crying. She was experiencing an emotion that is common to us all, rich or poor. My son aged 42 cried bitterly at the funeral, and afterwards, of his 94 year old grandmother last December. It’s grief and we all feel it.

It's the double standards maddyone.

M has said she was suicidal but got some terrible abuse on here for that. So some people (Beatrice) are to be pitied but some (Meghan) are nasty gold digging jezebels who deserve all they get.

I can’t help but feel very, very sorry for what Beatrice and Eugenie have been through with their father.
In such an incredibly public way too.
I hope that they have good therapists

She was probably crying because she had just found out that not only was her father involved in sex trafficking, but now her parents have been involved in a fraud.

Compassion for a young woman experiencing grief due to the death of her grandfather? I think not!
It is simply a unkind comment which I suspect you would not have made about anyone else in this sorry situation. Beatrice has done no wrong and is not responsible for the wrong doings of her parents, which let’s not forget, have not been tested in a court of law.

I understand what you’re saying volver.
I also feel sorry for the York girls Fanny. I would feel sorry for anyone being pulled through the court of public opinion when they have done nothing to deserve it. They must love their parents, but to watch all this being played out in the media must be very hard for them.

What is the point in comparing entirely different situations , subjects?
Why not start another thread about your own pet hates/ likes instead of injecting sarcastic barbs into another.

Are you talking to me?

No sarcasm in expressing sorrow for someone grieving

??? Is who talking to who.
I have asked a question .

I’ll answer your question Brigeit

Not many people start threads

Threads evolve, like conversations

Everyone is allowed to say what they like on a thread, within decency

Your question came immediately after my posts, and so I wondered if you were addressing me Bregeit. Apologies if I misunderstood. I was fairly sure I hadn’t been sarcastic though.

FannyCornforth

I’ll answer your question Brigeit

Not many people start threads

Threads evolve, like conversations

Everyone is allowed to say what they like on a thread, within decency

... and it was inevitable that someone would at some point raise the issue of Andrew - and comment on the absence of H&M - or just H.

No conversations / discussions about the Queen are ever complete unless A or H&M are brought into them.

I have no idea what the Queen thinks or feels or how much time she ponders over these issues, whether she's pragmatic, philosophical, or what. And I'm guessing (speculating) that her own increasing frailty coupled with getting used to life without her consort, occupies her mind, somewhat.

I also wonder what she would make of the - literally thousands upon thousands - disparaging comments about H&M on various social media sites. All said out of pity and 'respect' for "our" Queen. H&M are 'black sheep' - lots of families have them - and still love them. In this respect, she might find such comments hurtful. Queen she may be, but she's also a human being. Of course, she won't be reading social media sites I'm guessing, so it doesn't matter in fact what nasty things are said about her grandson, but it matters in principle.

I'm not a Monarchist, but I do have a soft spot for Elizabeth.

Thank you Dickens, spot on

I can understand the dislike of (take your pick) Andrew, Sarah, Harry or Meghan’s behaviour but as far as I’m aware Beatrice has done nothing to merit the mocking of her grief at her grandfather’S memorial.

My husband knew several police officers who had dealings with Beatrice and Eugenia, and they all said what lovely, well mannered and polite girls they were.

Agree Pantglas I was shocked by that brutal post , a grandchild is mocked for crying at a memorial service to her
grandfather

www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1590045/royal-news-princess-eugenie-princess-beatrice-turkish-fraudster-money

Oh dear, more stress for the Queen.

Honeysuckleberries

My husband knew several police officers who had dealings with Beatrice and Eugenia, and they all said what lovely, well mannered and polite girls they were.

Well they should be really shouldn’t they !

I’m not commenting on the crying at the memorial by the way before anyone starts……just responding to that post

This is great, for so many reasons.

Headline, in big letters: Princesses Eugenie and Beatrice 'received Turkish fraudster cash' with Andrew link ???

Last line of article: There is no suggestion that the Duke of York, Sarah Ferguson, Princess Eugenie or Princess Beatrice committed any wrongdoing or knew the source of the payments.

Never, never tell me that the press aren't manipulating us. Never say that. I will bring this up.

The press do try to manipulate us. They absolutely do.
But I thought more of Gransnetters than that any of them would mock a young woman crying at her grandfather’s memorial service. Obviously not you volver.
Thank you Annie, Pantglas and any others who have agreed with me.
It is unseemly and unkind to mock a young woman crying at her grandfather’s memorial, whoever the young woman happens to be.

What about a woman who is so sad she wants to die. Is it OK to have a go at her?

Double standards maddyone, double standards.

(Not you)

There’s a massive difference between seeing something with your own eyes and being told something by someone who’s been economical with the truth in the past...